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Amen, Danny, amen. Syd Cohen Wausau, WI NC94196 danny coon wrote: > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- > > Hello! My name is Danny. I've been reading ya'lls > descusion on the New Coupe, decided to put in my two > cents. I'll try to make a long story short. I was > introduced to flying when was 40 years old. I came > across an ultralight (another story altogether), took > lessons, flew low and slow, life was great. For the > next few years I didn' go fishing (I grew up on the > bayous of south Louisiana), Didn't play golf, just > forgot about anything else I'd ever enjoyed doing. My > weekends and free time were at fly-ins, air shows, air > museums. Flying, anything to do with flying. I ended > up getting my Private Pilots Cert., joined a Flying > club, flew 150's, a few hours in a Citabria, 172's, > and anything else I could climb into. All the while, I > saved my money. At a fly-in in Oakdale, La.(I'm going > back a few years) I had seen this little plane. It was > the neatest thing. Low wing, tri gear, TWIN RUDDERS, a > convertable, Man what the hell is that? I asked my > friend, An Ercoupe! Whats an ercoupe? He didn't really > know, but he knew it was an ercoupe. I told him that > day, Man this is what I want. From that day on, I'd > notice these little planes at different fly-ins and > whatnot. I read up on them, checked out the net, I > became so impressed by this little plane. What sports > cars are to automobiles, they are to airplanes. > Needless to say, on Jan.22, this year I purchased a > 1946 415-C. Its polished alum. trimed in red, white, > blue. the rag wings are painted red and white with > blue stars, tail feathers match, with polished > rudders. If I could figure out how to send pictures > over this thing, I'd send them. Its got a cont.75, has > rudder peddels, Man I'm having a ball, this thing is a > true classic. The more I fly it the more I love it. I > admit, I don't realy fly long distances. We don't > really have any mountains in Louisiana, 100+- mph is > about as fast as I care to go anymore, and its a > convertable. Man if I don't ever get to fly in any > other type of airplane again in my life, I think I'll > die a happy man. Sorry my two cents turned into about > a buck and a half, but whats this about a "New Coupe" > Is there really such an animal? How do you improve the > perfect two place flying machine, without turning it > into something else entirely? There's plenty of room > for customizeing, and personalization, but change the > ERCOUPE? Old Fred's turning over in his grave. > Danny N94306 P.S. Thanks for all > the vauable info. I've gotten off this site. > > > > > > > --- Bill Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm > > before following any advice in this forum.]---- > > > > Hi: > > Just my two cents but has no one considered the > > Rotax 912 line of > > engines. 80 to 115 hp and a lot less weight. Between > > 130 to 140 lbs > > ready to go. I've been flying behind one for 700 to > > 800 hrs with not a > > hiccup. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 1:08 AM > > To: Hartmut; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] A new Coupe > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm > > before following > > any advice in this forum.]---- > > What did I miss here? I thought this was a "NEW" > > Coupe. Composits etc. > > I wouldn't think a new state of the art Coupe would > > still only fly at > > 110 mph. I'm thinking more in the 140-150 range. I > > would guess a 125 > > would burn around 8 gph, so with 30 gal. fuel, range > > of 500 miles with > > 30 minute reserve. > > > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Hartmut <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] A new Coupe > > > > All. > > > > While it is very favorable to have some extra power > > at altitude I guess > > a regular 125-150 hp continental/lycoming gas > > powered engine will not > > cut it. > > First, these engine will weight more, so does the > > extra amount of fuel > > you'll need to run them. > > In the case described below the desired flying > > distance is 2 X 250 miles > > (no wind condition). Since you can't fly much faster > > than 110 - 120 with > > the Ercoupe airframe you'll need fuel for around 5 > > hours. That is 50 > > Gallons of fuel for an 10GPH engine. Twice the fuel > > we have now > > available. > > With the extra amount of fuel and the extra engine > > weight your usable > > weight would shrink that much that your wife would > > have to stay home > > again. > > The only solution would be to construct a different > > airframe, but that > > is probably not a Coupe then, or allow a stall speed > > of around 80 mph > > for your high power NEWcoupe. > > > > So what's to do? > > Very simple. Not always does bigger equal more. In > > aviation you'll have > > to pay a price for bigger. > > A staedy, reliable horse power of around 70-90hp is > > very sufficiant for > > our little planes. > > If we only could sustain these values up in the > > air..... > > A turbo charged or turbo normalized 85 hp engine > > will produce the 85 hp > > also at altitude, but still consume only 5 Gallon > > per hour. With this > > consumption and the lesser engine weight we are in > > the desired ballpark. > > Remember the normal gasoline engines we use for > > flying produce only 60 % > > of their power at altitude. It does not cut much if > > you have 60 % of 85 > > horse or 60% of 125 horses when you consider the > > additional weight of > > the 125 hp engine and the extra fuel to carry. > > > > Not bigger engines are the answer - the Coupe of > > the future will have a > > more sophisticated one. > > Engine that is. > > I know that, because one day I will be building that > > ( not as a kit , > > but as a ready to assemble plane)You will be able to > > buy it for around > > 50'000 Dollar, engine included and you will fly Jet > > fuel. > > > > Hartmut, San Francisco > > > > Flying is an art of living - The New Ercoupe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Larry Wilkins <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] A new Coupe > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm > > before following > > any advice in this forum.]---- > > If a "new" Coupe were to be introduced, wouldn't it > > be wise to bring it > > into the realm of the Modern world? I fly out of a > > 5000 msl field, and > > most of our flying is above 7500 ft. An 85 hp Coupe > > just doesn't cut it > > when I have to cross over a pass that's 8000 ft > > high. I always wanted > > to Fly my wife and myself down to Lake Powell, but > > just couldn't make it > > with the two of us and any food and gear. On top of > > that, it was 250 > > miles one way, which means I couldn't make it round > > trip. With no fuel > > at the airport there, I would have to have made a > > detour for fuel. More > > fuel? Wider Cockpit? More Power? All of the > > above!!! Many things made > > the Coupe a wonderfully fun little plane. A few > > more things would have > > made it a wonderfully fun, useful plane. 125 hp. > > That would have made > > my Coupe great. > > > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Percy Wood <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] A new Coupe > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm > > before following > > any advice in this forum.]---- > > At 07:09 PM 3/22/02 -0500, Keith Courson wrote: > > > > > > > > ----[Please read > > http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm > > before following any advice in this forum.]---- > > I have recieved alot of intrest in a new Coupe being > > offered as a kit > > andpossibly a certified plane. > > > > Yo, Keith. > > Some of us on the `coupers list have been noodling > > a 'new coupe' for > > some > > time. We have come to the conclusion that it can be > > done, but one > > should > > try to keep the charm. Examples: > > * Flaps. They indeed enhance lift at slow speeds. > > But complicate the > > structure. Without flaps, the wing maintains a > > sufficiently small chord > > so as to be stable. Flaps are one more thing to > > compensate for. Along > > with engine thrust. > > * Wider. Could be nice. > > * Engine. Consensis tends towards 75 - 100 horse > > range. Remember, > > more horses = more fuel. Where you gonna put it and > > how we gonna pay > > for it? > > * Canopy. Part of the charm is flying with the > > 'top down.' Will that > > still > > be available? > > Now, dispite all the questions, we do wish your > > initive well. I > > remain at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > should you wish to get in on a good 'new coupe' > > discussion. > > Percy G. 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