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On May 16, 2013, at 3:14 PM, "Alex Hillman" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

That's what I thought!

What's the Jolly Rancher Exchange Rate these days? ;)



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On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jerome Chang 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
No way.  We can schedule out $200/mo for the next 20 years if we want.  So if 
we had 100 members, and 70 have $200/mo without any incidentals or other random 
charges, then we're only reviewing the remaining 30 plans to make sure they're 
properly invoiced/charged.  And out of those 30, for 25 of them we would likely 
manually enter in $210, or @200.50 or something.  The last 5 would be because 
they pay by check or cash, or by piles of jolly ranchers in our barter exchange 
program.  (haha!  of course we don't exchange in jolly ranchers, but wouldn't 
that be hilarious???)



Jerome
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On May 16, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Alex Hillman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Jerome,

Does this mean that every month you need to schedule a new $200/month payment 
for each member? Or does it do that automatically?

-Alex



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On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Jerome Chang 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Our system can schedule in the future, auto-payments to credit cards on file.  
This is ideal for plans that just pays, say, $200/mo.
However, they system does not run whatever outstanding balance is on a client's 
account.  We have to manually enter the amount we want to run on their card, 
say, 10 days later.  This occurs for plans that not only have a simple $200/mo 
plan, but also has other incidentals charged to their account: lost key 
replacement, printing, etc.


Jerome
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BLANKSPACES
"work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"

www.blankspaces.com<http://www.blankspaces.com/>
5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
323.330.9505<tel:323.330.9505> (office)

On May 16, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Alex Hillman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Got it, thanks!

The reason I ask is because so many of the community/group/club management 
systems I've evaluated in the past do monthly invoicing but don't auto-debit 
(or if they do, they're pretty terrible at everything else). It looks like some 
of the pay gateway options that CiviCRM supports allows for auto-debit, which 
is good news.

We're at the tail end of a migration from our old billing system and it's one 
of those things that I wish we'd done a few years ago. Doing it at the scale of 
hundreds of members has been one of the most time consuming processes I've ever 
been through. Necessary, but ouch.

-Alex



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On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Devin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There's core support for about 20, including Google Checkout, PayPal and 
Authorize.net<http://authorize.net/>. More here: 
http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC41/Payment+Processors

There is also an extension for Stripe.com<http://stripe.com/>, which works 
nicely and is my payment processor of choice.  I think a Dwolla extension is in 
the works.

On Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:07:22 PM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote:
Devin,

What payment processors does CiviCRM billing integrate with?



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On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Devin <[email protected]> wrote:
I've used Civi for a lot of things but not for space management.  One day when 
I have a space...

To quickly address your CiviCRM questions: one important feature is that it 
works inside a Wordpress site.  It does membership management and automated 
billing,  It doesn't do access tracking or resource reservations, but I think 
that's what this extension proposes doing.

CiviCRM isn't a perfect solution for coworking space management right now but I 
come from the school of thinking that problems don't get solved until there's a 
free/libre/open-source solution - and I'd put my money on CiviCRM being that 
solution in the not too distant future.


On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:43:41 AM UTC-4, Cristina Santamarina wrote:
Sam, congratulations for the close release! Your design is really nice, and you 
seem to handle most of what's needed - I am very very curious to see how you 
app works! I didn't find the time to watch a demo in GCUC but I'd love to try 
it once it is fully functional - when will I be able to click buttons and play 
around :) ?

Thanks for the mention to Cobot Brendan - it is great to see that someone is 
pointing to us even before I jump in the conversation. Lately I hear of a lot 
of new spaces using Cobot that learned about us through users comments in the 
discussion boards or that saw Cobot visiting other coworking spaces. Referrals 
prove us that we are on the right track and keep us moving. We send you coblove!

As Adrian said, each space is managed in a very different way - it is hard to 
be a fit for all and that's why I see a reason for all of us to exist. Last 
year there were just three options: Nexudus, Nadine, and Cobot. I was looking 
for software for the coworking space that some friends were starting and fell 
in love with Cobot at first sight for the same reasons you mentioned - it is 
smooth and easy to use. I think the main reason behind this is that we run a 
space ourselves and don't overcomplicate things with additional features that 
end up being unused - That's why I joined the team, and why everyday I feel so 
happy and proud of being part of it and help so many spaces.

Re CiviCRM, I am skeptic about generic CRM and ERP tools being adapted to 
coworking spaces management - after over 6 years working with workspace 
software and having tried many of these generic tools, I have lost my faith. 
Devin have you tried it yourself? What's the added value? I see in their list 
of features that they have an extensive contact profile and that they can also 
handle pledges, but they don't seem to handle membership plans, access 
tracking, resources reservations or automated billing - which are key to 
coworking software. Being a fit for all when you are a tool made for coworking 
is hard (we have to develop new features every week to fit the needs of new 
spaces using Cobot, and sometime we find that there's just no way to be a fit) 
so fitting the different coworking models when you're not even a tool made for 
coworking sound like a *very* hard thing. If they can make all this for the 
4k$, I guess we will have to try yet another coworking management tool.

Hey this was a long answer - we should all meet afk at some point, this is a 
hot topic!!

On Monday, January 21, 2013 11:30:52 PM UTC+1, Jason Saltzman wrote:
Hello everyone. I own and operate a co-working space in Midtown NYC, called 
AlleyNYC. We are looking for a member management solutions that would integrate 
with a magnetic door lock mechanism, where we can also manage certain pain 
points such as conference room allotment etc. I kindly ask for suggestions from 
any veteran. Racking my brain! Thanks in advance and Happy New Year to ALL!

Jason

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