I'm happy people are paying bills (especially with bitcoin), but I also think there's a limit to how impactful the coworking "movement" can be until a free/libre/open (free as in freedom) space management software solution emerges that many different people and spaces can collaboratively improve upon.
Just my 2 cents. On Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:24:34 PM UTC-4, Cristina Santamarina wrote: > > hehe we integrated bitcoins a while ago - maybe we can do Jolly Ranchers > if there's a demand, but we'd need to work on how to ship them ;). > > Jerome so recurring fees can be automated but you have to manually > schedule variable fees, is that right? Saves some time but still some > manual work, which system are you using? And Alex - what system are you > switching to? I guess we missed IndyHall again :(. > > Devin, I hope your free is not as in beer! We love free beer, but also > still need to pay our bills. Though we do have an open API and let people > play around with Cobot and add any features they want. > > > On Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:17:06 PM UTC+2, Chris Johnson wrote: >> >> You should accept bitcoin >> >> Chris >> ---------------------------------- >> Medical IT Consultant >> Untangled Solutions, LLC >> Main: (909) 563-8578 x2101 >> Direct: (319) 224-0EMR >> [email protected] >> www.untangledsolutions.com >> >> This E-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 >> U.S.C. 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. This information is >> confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity >> named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, >> you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of >> this communication is strictly prohibited. Please immediately notify >> Untangled Solutions, LLC. and destroy the message. >> >> On May 16, 2013, at 3:14 PM, "Alex Hillman" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> That's what I thought! >> >> What's the Jolly Rancher Exchange Rate these days? ;) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> /ah >> indyhall.org >> coworking in philadelphia >> >> >> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> No way. We can schedule out $200/mo for the next 20 years if we want. >>> So if we had 100 members, and 70 have $200/mo without any incidentals or >>> other random charges, then we're only reviewing the remaining 30 plans to >>> make sure they're properly invoiced/charged. And out of those 30, for 25 >>> of them we would likely manually enter in $210, or @200.50 or something. >>> The last 5 would be because they pay by check or cash, or by piles of >>> jolly ranchers in our barter exchange program. (haha! of course we don't >>> exchange in jolly ranchers, but wouldn't that be hilarious???) >>> >>> >>> >>> Jerome >>> ______________ >>> BLANKSPACES >>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >>> >>> www.blankspaces.com >>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 >>> 323.330.9505 (office) >>> >>> On May 16, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Jerome, >>> >>> Does this mean that every month you need to schedule a new $200/month >>> payment for each member? Or does it do that automatically? >>> >>> -Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> /ah >>> indyhall.org >>> coworking in philadelphia >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Our system can schedule in the future, auto-payments to credit cards on >>>> file. This is ideal for plans that just pays, say, $200/mo. >>>> However, they system does not run whatever outstanding balance is on a >>>> client's account. We have to manually enter the amount we want to run on >>>> their card, say, 10 days later. This occurs for plans that not only have >>>> a >>>> simple $200/mo plan, but also has other incidentals charged to their >>>> account: lost key replacement, printing, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> Jerome >>>> ______________ >>>> BLANKSPACES >>>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >>>> >>>> www.blankspaces.com >>>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 >>>> 323.330.9505 (office) >>>> >>>> On May 16, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Got it, thanks! >>>> >>>> The reason I ask is because so many of the community/group/club >>>> management systems I've evaluated in the past do monthly *invoicing* but >>>> don't auto-debit (or if they do, they're pretty terrible at everything >>>> else). It looks like some of the pay gateway options that CiviCRM supports >>>> allows for auto-debit, which is good news. >>>> >>>> We're at the tail end of a migration from our old billing system and >>>> it's one of those things that I wish we'd done a few years ago. Doing it >>>> at >>>> the scale of hundreds of members has been one of the most time consuming >>>> processes I've ever been through. Necessary, but ouch. >>>> >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> /ah >>>> indyhall.org >>>> coworking in philadelphia >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Devin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There's core support for about 20, including Google Checkout, PayPal >>>>> and Authorize.net <http://authorize.net/>. More here: >>>>> http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC41/Payment+Processors >>>>> >>>>> There is also an extension for Stripe.com <http://stripe.com/>, >>>>> which works nicely and is my payment processor of choice. I think a >>>>> Dwolla >>>>> extension is in the works. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:07:22 PM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Devin, >>>>>> >>>>>> What payment processors does CiviCRM billing integrate with? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> /ah >>>>>> indyhall.org >>>>>> coworking in philadelphia >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Devin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've used Civi for a lot of things but not for space management. >>>>>>> One day when I have a space... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To quickly address your CiviCRM questions: one important feature >>>>>>> is that it works inside a Wordpress site. It does membership >>>>>>> management >>>>>>> and automated billing, It doesn't do access tracking or resource >>>>>>> reservations, but I think that's what this extension proposes doing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CiviCRM isn't a perfect solution for coworking space management >>>>>>> right now but I come from the school of thinking that problems don't >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> solved until there's a free/libre/open-source solution - and I'd put my >>>>>>> money on CiviCRM being that solution in the not too distant future. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:43:41 AM UTC-4, Cristina Santamarina >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam, congratulations for the close release! Your design is really >>>>>>>> nice, and you seem to handle most of what's needed - I am very very >>>>>>>> curious >>>>>>>> to see how you app works! I didn't find the time to watch a demo in >>>>>>>> GCUC >>>>>>>> but I'd love to try it once it is fully functional - when will I be >>>>>>>> able to >>>>>>>> click buttons and play around :) ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the mention to Cobot Brendan - it is great to see that >>>>>>>> someone is pointing to us even before I jump in the conversation. >>>>>>>> Lately I >>>>>>>> hear of a lot of new spaces using Cobot that learned about us through >>>>>>>> users >>>>>>>> comments in the discussion boards or that saw Cobot visiting other >>>>>>>> coworking spaces. Referrals prove us that we are on the right track >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> keep us moving. We send you coblove! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As Adrian said, each space is managed in a very different way - >>>>>>>> it is hard to be a fit for all and that's why I see a reason for all >>>>>>>> of us >>>>>>>> to exist. Last year there were just three options: Nexudus, >>>>>>>> Nadine, and Cobot. I was looking for software for the coworking space >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> some friends were starting and fell in love with Cobot at first sight >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> the same reasons you mentioned - it is smooth and easy to use. I think >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> main reason behind this is that we run a space ourselves and don't >>>>>>>> overcomplicate things with additional features that end up being >>>>>>>> unused - >>>>>>>> That's why I joined the team, and why everyday I feel so happy and >>>>>>>> proud of >>>>>>>> being part of it and help so many spaces. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re CiviCRM, I am skeptic about generic CRM and ERP tools being >>>>>>>> adapted to coworking spaces management - after over 6 years working >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> workspace software and having tried many of these generic tools, I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> lost my faith. Devin have you tried it yourself? What's the added >>>>>>>> value? I >>>>>>>> see in their list of features that they have an extensive contact >>>>>>>> profile >>>>>>>> and that they can also handle pledges, but they don't seem to handle >>>>>>>> membership plans, access tracking, resources reservations or automated >>>>>>>> billing - which are key to coworking software. Being a fit for all >>>>>>>> when you are a tool made for coworking is hard (we have to develop new >>>>>>>> features every week to fit the needs of new spaces using Cobot, and >>>>>>>> sometime we find that there's just no way to be a fit) so fitting the >>>>>>>> different coworking models when you're not even a tool made for >>>>>>>> coworking >>>>>>>> sound like a *very* hard thing. If they can make all this for the 4k$, >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> guess we will have to try yet another coworking management tool. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey this was a long answer - we should all meet afk at some >>>>>>>> point, this is a hot topic!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, January 21, 2013 11:30:52 PM UTC+1, Jason Saltzman >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello everyone. I own and operate a co-working space in Midtown >>>>>>>>> NYC, called AlleyNYC. We are looking for a member management >>>>>>>>> solutions that >>>>>>>>> would integrate with a magnetic door lock mechanism, where we can >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> manage certain pain points such as conference room allotment etc. I >>>>>>>>> kindly >>>>>>>>> ask for suggestions from any veteran. Racking my brain! 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