Nadine is the existing coworking open-source option, but as Jacob says, it needs ongoing work, a project manager, and we all know it is not easy to get these for free. I have seen Nadine and it looks great - but one needs to be technical to get the most out of it.
I guess for tech people having open options is key but don't expect a lot of coworking spaces jumping in and coding features. As I said, Cobot has an open API, but it is very rarely used by other spaces. When they want a new feature, they usually ask us to do it for them. I don't know if the Nadine project has a lot of contributions, though. On Friday, May 17, 2013 2:13:39 AM UTC+2, Devin wrote: > > I'm happy people are paying bills (especially with bitcoin), but I also > think there's a limit to how impactful the coworking "movement" can be > until a free/libre/open (free as in freedom) space management software > solution emerges that many different people and spaces can collaboratively > improve upon. > > Just my 2 cents. > > On Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:24:34 PM UTC-4, Cristina Santamarina wrote: >> >> hehe we integrated bitcoins a while ago - maybe we can do Jolly Ranchers >> if there's a demand, but we'd need to work on how to ship them ;). >> >> Jerome so recurring fees can be automated but you have to manually >> schedule variable fees, is that right? Saves some time but still some >> manual work, which system are you using? And Alex - what system are you >> switching to? I guess we missed IndyHall again :(. >> >> Devin, I hope your free is not as in beer! We love free beer, but also >> still need to pay our bills. Though we do have an open API and let people >> play around with Cobot and add any features they want. >> >> >> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:17:06 PM UTC+2, Chris Johnson wrote: >>> >>> You should accept bitcoin >>> >>> Chris >>> ---------------------------------- >>> Medical IT Consultant >>> Untangled Solutions, LLC >>> Main: (909) 563-8578 x2101 >>> Direct: (319) 224-0EMR >>> [email protected] >>> www.untangledsolutions.com >>> >>> This E-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, >>> 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. This information is >>> confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity >>> named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, >>> you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of >>> this communication is strictly prohibited. Please immediately notify >>> Untangled Solutions, LLC. and destroy the message. >>> >>> On May 16, 2013, at 3:14 PM, "Alex Hillman" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> That's what I thought! >>> >>> What's the Jolly Rancher Exchange Rate these days? ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> /ah >>> indyhall.org >>> coworking in philadelphia >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> No way. We can schedule out $200/mo for the next 20 years if we want. >>>> So if we had 100 members, and 70 have $200/mo without any incidentals or >>>> other random charges, then we're only reviewing the remaining 30 plans to >>>> make sure they're properly invoiced/charged. And out of those 30, for 25 >>>> of them we would likely manually enter in $210, or @200.50 or something. >>>> The last 5 would be because they pay by check or cash, or by piles of >>>> jolly ranchers in our barter exchange program. (haha! of course we don't >>>> exchange in jolly ranchers, but wouldn't that be hilarious???) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jerome >>>> ______________ >>>> BLANKSPACES >>>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >>>> >>>> www.blankspaces.com >>>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 >>>> 323.330.9505 (office) >>>> >>>> On May 16, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jerome, >>>> >>>> Does this mean that every month you need to schedule a new $200/month >>>> payment for each member? Or does it do that automatically? >>>> >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> /ah >>>> indyhall.org >>>> coworking in philadelphia >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Jerome Chang >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Our system can schedule in the future, auto-payments to credit cards >>>>> on file. This is ideal for plans that just pays, say, $200/mo. >>>>> However, they system does not run whatever outstanding balance is on a >>>>> client's account. We have to manually enter the amount we want to run on >>>>> their card, say, 10 days later. This occurs for plans that not only have >>>>> a >>>>> simple $200/mo plan, but also has other incidentals charged to their >>>>> account: lost key replacement, printing, etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jerome >>>>> ______________ >>>>> BLANKSPACES >>>>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >>>>> >>>>> www.blankspaces.com >>>>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 >>>>> 323.330.9505 (office) >>>>> >>>>> On May 16, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Got it, thanks! >>>>> >>>>> The reason I ask is because so many of the community/group/club >>>>> management systems I've evaluated in the past do monthly *invoicing* but >>>>> don't auto-debit (or if they do, they're pretty terrible at everything >>>>> else). It looks like some of the pay gateway options that CiviCRM >>>>> supports >>>>> allows for auto-debit, which is good news. >>>>> >>>>> We're at the tail end of a migration from our old billing system and >>>>> it's one of those things that I wish we'd done a few years ago. Doing it >>>>> at >>>>> the scale of hundreds of members has been one of the most time consuming >>>>> processes I've ever been through. Necessary, but ouch. >>>>> >>>>> -Alex >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> /ah >>>>> indyhall.org >>>>> coworking in philadelphia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Devin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There's core support for about 20, including Google Checkout, PayPal >>>>>> and Authorize.net <http://authorize.net/>. More here: >>>>>> http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC41/Payment+Processors >>>>>> >>>>>> There is also an extension for Stripe.com <http://stripe.com/>, >>>>>> which works nicely and is my payment processor of choice. I think a >>>>>> Dwolla >>>>>> extension is in the works. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:07:22 PM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Devin, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What payment processors does CiviCRM billing integrate with? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /ah >>>>>>> indyhall.org >>>>>>> coworking in philadelphia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Devin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've used Civi for a lot of things but not for space management. >>>>>>>> One day when I have a space... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To quickly address your CiviCRM questions: one important feature >>>>>>>> is that it works inside a Wordpress site. It does membership >>>>>>>> management >>>>>>>> and automated billing, It doesn't do access tracking or resource >>>>>>>> reservations, but I think that's what this extension proposes doing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CiviCRM isn't a perfect solution for coworking space management >>>>>>>> right now but I come from the school of thinking that problems don't >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> solved until there's a free/libre/open-source solution - and I'd put >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> money on CiviCRM being that solution in the not too distant future. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:43:41 AM UTC-4, Cristina Santamarina >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam, congratulations for the close release! Your design is really >>>>>>>>> nice, and you seem to handle most of what's needed - I am very very >>>>>>>>> curious >>>>>>>>> to see how you app works! I didn't find the time to watch a demo in >>>>>>>>> GCUC >>>>>>>>> but I'd love to try it once it is fully functional - when will I be >>>>>>>>> able to >>>>>>>>> click buttons and play around :) ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the mention to Cobot Brendan - it is great to see >>>>>>>>> that someone is pointing to us even before I jump in the >>>>>>>>> conversation. >>>>>>>>> Lately I hear of a lot of new spaces using Cobot that learned about >>>>>>>>> us >>>>>>>>> through users comments in the discussion boards or that saw Cobot >>>>>>>>> visiting >>>>>>>>> other coworking spaces. Referrals prove us that we are on the right >>>>>>>>> track >>>>>>>>> and keep us moving. We send you coblove! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As Adrian said, each space is managed in a very different way - >>>>>>>>> it is hard to be a fit for all and that's why I see a reason for all >>>>>>>>> of us >>>>>>>>> to exist. Last year there were just three options: Nexudus, >>>>>>>>> Nadine, and Cobot. I was looking for software for the coworking space >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> some friends were starting and fell in love with Cobot at first sight >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> the same reasons you mentioned - it is smooth and easy to use. I >>>>>>>>> think the >>>>>>>>> main reason behind this is that we run a space ourselves and don't >>>>>>>>> overcomplicate things with additional features that end up being >>>>>>>>> unused - >>>>>>>>> That's why I joined the team, and why everyday I feel so happy and >>>>>>>>> proud of >>>>>>>>> being part of it and help so many spaces. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Re CiviCRM, I am skeptic about generic CRM and ERP tools being >>>>>>>>> adapted to coworking spaces management - after over 6 years working >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> workspace software and having tried many of these generic tools, I >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> lost my faith. Devin have you tried it yourself? What's the added >>>>>>>>> value? I >>>>>>>>> see in their list of features that they have an extensive contact >>>>>>>>> profile >>>>>>>>> and that they can also handle pledges, but they don't seem to handle >>>>>>>>> membership plans, access tracking, resources reservations or >>>>>>>>> automated >>>>>>>>> billing - which are key to coworking software. Being a fit for >>>>>>>>> all when you are a tool made for coworking is hard (we have to >>>>>>>>> develop new >>>>>>>>> features every week to fit the needs of new spaces using Cobot, and >>>>>>>>> sometime we find that there's just no way to be a fit) so fitting the >>>>>>>>> different coworking models when you're not even a tool made for >>>>>>>>> coworking >>>>>>>>> sound like a *very* hard thing. If they can make all this for the >>>>>>>>> 4k$, I >>>>>>>>> guess we will have to try yet another coworking management tool. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey this was a long answer - we should all meet afk at some >>>>>>>>> point, this is a hot topic!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 21, 2013 11:30:52 PM UTC+1, Jason Saltzman >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone. I own and operate a co-working space in Midtown >>>>>>>>>> NYC, called AlleyNYC. We are looking for a member management >>>>>>>>>> solutions that >>>>>>>>>> would integrate with a magnetic door lock mechanism, where we can >>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>> manage certain pain points such as conference room allotment etc. I >>>>>>>>>> kindly >>>>>>>>>> ask for suggestions from any veteran. Racking my brain! 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