Correct re:recurring and variable fees.
I use MindBodyOnline.

Jerome
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On May 16, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Cristina Santamarina <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> hehe we integrated bitcoins a while ago - maybe we can do Jolly Ranchers if 
> there's a demand, but we'd need to work on how to ship them ;).
> 
> Jerome so recurring fees can be automated but you have to manually schedule 
> variable fees, is that right? Saves some time but still some manual work, 
> which system are you using? And Alex - what system are you switching to? I 
> guess we missed IndyHall again :(.
> 
> Devin, I hope your free is not as in beer! We love free beer, but also still 
> need to pay our bills. Though we do have an open API and let people play 
> around with Cobot and add any features they want. 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:17:06 PM UTC+2, Chris Johnson wrote:
> You should accept bitcoin 
> 
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> On May 16, 2013, at 3:14 PM, "Alex Hillman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> That's what I thought!
>> 
>> What's the Jolly Rancher Exchange Rate these days? ;)
>> 
>> 
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>> /ah
>> indyhall.org
>> coworking in philadelphia
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]> wrote:
>> No way.  We can schedule out $200/mo for the next 20 years if we want.  So 
>> if we had 100 members, and 70 have $200/mo without any incidentals or other 
>> random charges, then we're only reviewing the remaining 30 plans to make 
>> sure they're properly invoiced/charged.  And out of those 30, for 25 of them 
>> we would likely manually enter in $210, or @200.50 or something.  The last 5 
>> would be because they pay by check or cash, or by piles of jolly ranchers in 
>> our barter exchange program.  (haha!  of course we don't exchange in jolly 
>> ranchers, but wouldn't that be hilarious???)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jerome
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>> BLANKSPACES
>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
>> 
>> www.blankspaces.com
>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
>> 323.330.9505 (office)
>> 
>> On May 16, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jerome,
>>> 
>>> Does this mean that every month you need to schedule a new $200/month 
>>> payment for each member? Or does it do that automatically?
>>> 
>>> -Alex
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> /ah
>>> indyhall.org
>>> coworking in philadelphia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Our system can schedule in the future, auto-payments to credit cards on 
>>> file.  This is ideal for plans that just pays, say, $200/mo.
>>> However, they system does not run whatever outstanding balance is on a 
>>> client's account.  We have to manually enter the amount we want to run on 
>>> their card, say, 10 days later.  This occurs for plans that not only have a 
>>> simple $200/mo plan, but also has other incidentals charged to their 
>>> account: lost key replacement, printing, etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jerome
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>>> 323.330.9505 (office)
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Got it, thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> The reason I ask is because so many of the community/group/club management 
>>>> systems I've evaluated in the past do monthly invoicing but don't 
>>>> auto-debit (or if they do, they're pretty terrible at everything else). It 
>>>> looks like some of the pay gateway options that CiviCRM supports allows 
>>>> for auto-debit, which is good news.
>>>> 
>>>> We're at the tail end of a migration from our old billing system and it's 
>>>> one of those things that I wish we'd done a few years ago. Doing it at the 
>>>> scale of hundreds of members has been one of the most time consuming 
>>>> processes I've ever been through. Necessary, but ouch.
>>>> 
>>>> -Alex
>>>> 
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>>>> /ah
>>>> indyhall.org
>>>> coworking in philadelphia
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Devin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> There's core support for about 20, including Google Checkout, PayPal and 
>>>> Authorize.net. More here: 
>>>> http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC41/Payment+Processors
>>>> 
>>>> There is also an extension for Stripe.com, which works nicely and is my 
>>>> payment processor of choice.  I think a Dwolla extension is in the works.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:07:22 PM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote:
>>>> Devin,
>>>> 
>>>> What payment processors does CiviCRM billing integrate with?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> /ah
>>>> indyhall.org
>>>> coworking in philadelphia
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Devin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I've used Civi for a lot of things but not for space management.  One day 
>>>> when I have a space...
>>>> 
>>>> To quickly address your CiviCRM questions: one important feature is that 
>>>> it works inside a Wordpress site.  It does membership management and 
>>>> automated billing,  It doesn't do access tracking or resource 
>>>> reservations, but I think that's what this extension proposes doing.
>>>> 
>>>> CiviCRM isn't a perfect solution for coworking space management right now 
>>>> but I come from the school of thinking that problems don't get solved 
>>>> until there's a free/libre/open-source solution - and I'd put my money on 
>>>> CiviCRM being that solution in the not too distant future.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:43:41 AM UTC-4, Cristina Santamarina wrote:
>>>> Sam, congratulations for the close release! Your design is really nice, 
>>>> and you seem to handle most of what's needed - I am very very curious to 
>>>> see how you app works! I didn't find the time to watch a demo in GCUC but 
>>>> I'd love to try it once it is fully functional - when will I be able to 
>>>> click buttons and play around :) ?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the mention to Cobot Brendan - it is great to see that someone 
>>>> is pointing to us even before I jump in the conversation. Lately I hear of 
>>>> a lot of new spaces using Cobot that learned about us through users 
>>>> comments in the discussion boards or that saw Cobot visiting other 
>>>> coworking spaces. Referrals prove us that we are on the right track and 
>>>> keep us moving. We send you coblove!
>>>> 
>>>> As Adrian said, each space is managed in a very different way - it is hard 
>>>> to be a fit for all and that's why I see a reason for all of us to exist. 
>>>> Last year there were just three options: Nexudus, Nadine, and Cobot. I was 
>>>> looking for software for the coworking space that some friends were 
>>>> starting and fell in love with Cobot at first sight for the same reasons 
>>>> you mentioned - it is smooth and easy to use. I think the main reason 
>>>> behind this is that we run a space ourselves and don't overcomplicate 
>>>> things with additional features that end up being unused - That's why I 
>>>> joined the team, and why everyday I feel so happy and proud of being part 
>>>> of it and help so many spaces. 
>>>> 
>>>> Re CiviCRM, I am skeptic about generic CRM and ERP tools being adapted to 
>>>> coworking spaces management - after over 6 years working with workspace 
>>>> software and having tried many of these generic tools, I have lost my 
>>>> faith. Devin have you tried it yourself? What's the added value? I see in 
>>>> their list of features that they have an extensive contact profile and 
>>>> that they can also handle pledges, but they don't seem to handle 
>>>> membership plans, access tracking, resources reservations or automated 
>>>> billing - which are key to coworking software. Being a fit for all when 
>>>> you are a tool made for coworking is hard (we have to develop new features 
>>>> every week to fit the needs of new spaces using Cobot, and sometime we 
>>>> find that there's just no way to be a fit) so fitting the different 
>>>> coworking models when you're not even a tool made for coworking sound like 
>>>> a *very* hard thing. If they can make all this for the 4k$, I guess we 
>>>> will have to try yet another coworking management tool.
>>>> 
>>>> Hey this was a long answer - we should all meet afk at some point, this is 
>>>> a hot topic!!
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday, January 21, 2013 11:30:52 PM UTC+1, Jason Saltzman wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone. I own and operate a co-working space in Midtown NYC, 
>>>> called AlleyNYC. We are looking for a member management solutions that 
>>>> would integrate with a magnetic door lock mechanism, where we can also 
>>>> manage certain pain points such as conference room allotment etc. I kindly 
>>>> ask for suggestions from any veteran. Racking my brain! Thanks in advance 
>>>> and Happy New Year to ALL! 
>>>> 
>>>> Jason    
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