Hello everyone.  I'm really liking this discussion about more of the 
design/architecture of coworking spaces, or at least open plans.  There'll be 
at least 1-2 sessions on this @GCUC in Kansas City, so I hope many of you 
attend both GCUC and these sessions.

As for the below responses, I fully agree.
        Throwing $ into the physical elements of the space doesn't solely 
improve worker experience...neither does solely injecting cultural changes.  
Both need to work together, and neither have more importance.
        And yes, I totally agree that open-plan and collaborative workspace are 
not synonymous, but commonly and effectively complement each other.
        And finally, seating density can succeed...and fail - it's all a matter 
of what's appropriate given all things.  Caroline makes a great point that our 
members PAY for our relatively high seating density, but HBR doesn't 
distinguish these situations between private offices, and office biz models.  
Personally, I've been experimenting with - honestly - insanely high seating 
density, compared to industry standards, both real estate and coworking.  That 
said, I'm being very selective where and how.  It also helps that I have 
private clients who hire me as an architect to design their spaces and so I get 
to use those projects as well to keep experimenting and iterating.


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On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:27 AM, Caroline McLaren 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for sharing this. I found the  HBR version of this article 
> particularly insightful thanks to its regression analysis into main 
> frustration factors and impact of these factors on overall worker 
> satisfaction (see spider diagram)
> 
> There's a big difference between creating an open-plan office (where there is 
> only open work stations and some meeting rooms), and designing a 
> collaborative workspace (whether that using coworking or activity-based 
> working principles) that truly caters to the working and personal needs of 
> users (often incorporating a variety of work settings). "Lack of sound 
> privacy" and "lack of space" are not direct outcomes of an open-plan office 
> but a poorly designed open-plan office.  I've seen and heard plenty of 
> first-hand examples from poor implementation and execution of an "open-plan 
> office" (giving the name a bad rap and resulting in statistics like this 
> survey).
> 
> The HBR article notes that the amount of space was both the most frustrating 
> and greatest determinant to overall worker satisfaction, yet this contradicts 
> our experience in the coworking industry.  We have some of the highest 
> density of worker populations (higher than any activity-based corporate 
> workplaces) and yet our members like our workspace so much and feel it 
> contributes to their productivity that they actually pay to work in our 
> spaces.  It makes me question whether it is really the amount of space (e.g. 
> in square meters/feet per person) or the access to the right type of space 
> that is the biggest challenge / opportunity.
> 
> In the research presented, a variable representing access to a variety of 
> workspace types was not included.  In our experience, people don't mind being 
> in a high-density space, so long as they have the access to facilities to 
> support what they need to do (private phone booths for phone calls, cafe 
> style environment for informal meetings, sufficient formal meeting spaces, 
> solo work booths for focused solo work etc).  At Hub Australia, we have 
> incorporated a variety of different spaces (including things like Buzzihoods 
> and small rooms for solo focused work) to ensure people have the "sufficient 
> space" to make phone calls and do uninterrupted work.   To me, this shows 
> that the "access to space" identified in the research may not be specifically 
> access to a certain quantity of space, but the availability and variety of 
> spaces.
> 
> The most successful work style transitionsalso ensure a sufficient level of 
> culture change readiness and management is undertaken.  If time is taken to 
> consult with the users to understand their current and future use and need 
> states, and invite them to participate actively in the changes it's likely to 
> be much more engaging and successful.  I recommend taking 6-9 months to fully 
> understand user needs and begin to prototype physical workplace designs.

On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:35 AM, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> wrote:

> 1) if you're good for everyone, you're great for no-one. 
> 
> 2) earlier this year, noise levels came up as an opportunity for improving 
> Indy Hall during one of our own internal research projects. 
> 
> Curious for more details, I followed up with a subsequent line of questions: 
> where so you believe the noise is coming from? Is it people on their phones, 
> people talking to each other at their desks, people talking to each other in 
> nearby common areas, or something else entirely?
> 
> The results of that question were evenly spread across the options (ha!) but 
> the real answer emerged: WAY more people than had mentioned noise issues 
> spoke up and said "Please don't make Indy Hall more quiet. I come here for 
> the noise. I love that buzz. I can't get it anywhere else. If I wanted 
> silence, I'd stay at home or go to the library."
> 
> 3) I've worked on several projects now re: open floor plan implementations in 
> corporate settings. Every time it looks like this:
> 
> * company spends a boatload of money on design, architects, and furniture
> * everybody hates it, rebellion, etc (not unlike the article)
> * Alex's phone rings, "why isn't this working?"
> 
> My first question is, "well what did you change?" The answer is ALWAYS 
> environment. It's NEVER anything related to culture, management or 
> communication. 
> 
> That's the problem. The environment needs to match the culture, the 
> management, and the communication. 
> 
> Two concrete examples:
> 
> A) manager cites that she likes the flexibility of choosing different areas 
> to work, but...there's a new problem. "I never know where my team is. I spend 
> half of my day hunting them down."
> 
> The communication and leadership techniques were never given to the team on 
> how to effectively check in and report to each other. It's not so much about 
> "flatness" but a "network" style of communication rather than a hub and spoke 
> style. 
> 
> B) employees hate the open floor plan. Cite all sorts of things like in the 
> article. So I start to dig into the specifics. 
> 
> A common pattern emerges: trust. People don't like having people able to walk 
> by and see what they're doing. They feel like their manager is hovering more 
> (which she may or may not be - the point is the feeling). "Someone's always 
> looking for a way to get a leg up, or take credit."
> 
> Again, a culture issue. Zero work is being done by management or staff to 
> build or reinforce trust in the workplace, or worse, they actively do things 
> to chip away at trust (this is a huge systemic issue that repeats across 
> basically every project I've worked on). 
> 
> Without trust, "open" isn't possible. And  that goes far beyond floor plans. 
> 
> That's just a sampling of my own research. I, too, have had my personal 
> biases challenged a lot during this work, but continue to discover that the 
> root problems are consistent - and have VERY LITTLE to do with space design 
> (a few exceptions, I could talk about those another time). The issues are 
> nearly 100% caused by pre-existing cultural problems that the space 
> exacerbated, and/or a very poor approach to cultural "change management" to 
> get it in line with the new space long before the millions are spent on 
> furniture. 
> 
> 
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> --
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> betterwork.co
> 
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace 
> <[email protected]="mailto:[email protected]";>> wrote:
> http://www.theguardian.com/news/2013/nov/18/open-plan-offices-bad-harvard-business-review
> 
> Putting this out there because I suspect what gets posted is generally 
> filtered toward the "coworking positive". 
> 
> While cubicles are the worst, this article is about shortcomings of open-plan 
> offices more generally. 
> 
> Putting aside the obvious fact that even if open-plan offices aren't for 
> everyone, they're certainly preferred by many of us, my existing bias has 
> been that most independent workers would do better (in terms of psychological 
> health as well as productivity and work quality) over the long run in a 
> social work environment than in a private/enclosed office. But articles like 
> this make me wonder if that really is just my own bias. 
> 
> Most of the findings suggested are contrary to what I would expect for 
> independent workers, and I wonder how much the results here may be contingent 
> on working in an organization (where being in an open plan office also 
> corresponds to being lower in the work hierarchy and where many of the people 
> you're working alongside are implicit competitors).
> 
> Thoughts? Where does this article go wrong (other than suggesting one size 
> fits all)? Does it suggest that ideal coworking space design would work 
> include ample opportunities for more private work and more isolated 
> collaboration?
> 
> Will
> 
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