Ken,

you wrote:

>my post from 7 August, which received no response at all:
and:
>I suggest that many on this list are dedicated to playing a game called 
>ideological "gotcha"

as for your first statement, I think we have all had that frustration of 
having salient thought ignored. I know my own non-response to yourpost was 
due to feeling I was in over my head in that particular area; so I said to 
myself: "Well, let me wait and see what they say about THAT, then I'll jump 
in." Rest assured that you've now sent me to the bookshelves to research.

As to ideological "gotcha", that is pandemic upon the 'net, and I thought it 
was a requirement for each post here on crashlist! <g>

Seriously, I am amazed at how much further we have been able to take 
discussions when we a) gave up the need to "win" and b)kept asking the 
question until it was answered.

Personally, I also try to discount those who attack the footnote (source) of 
an idea, but avoid a simple response to the idea itself. It's amazing how 
obvious and shallow those kinds of intellectual dishonesty appear when one 
steps back and examines them.

Unfortunately we all seem guilty of it from time to time.

thanks for your words, Ken

Tom

"All evolution in thought and conduct must first appear as heresy and 
misconduct."
  --G. B. Shaw





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