I completely agree with a.l.e ... We don't want to recreate the wheel, we want to build a motor. It was the whole point of my BoF session at LGM 2010. If you want to listen arguments, please read my presentation : http://www.yagraph.org/images/LGM/what-about-a-lgf.svg (to look at in Firefox)
So... some peoples like me and a.l.e fell the *necessity* of such a project, and we will do it. And, we have to start somewhere to make this "realidad" happen. A website is a good starting point. @a.l.e : Maybe we can contribute to Anwiki... we don't have a very short deadline. We have to investigate more on Aïki too. Does someone can do the same "nice points" / "less nice points" list for Aïki ? Thanks, -- yagraph 2010/8/13 [email protected] <[email protected]> > If it ain't broke, then don't fix it...is my position. I'm going to > focus on realidad. > > Jon > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM, a.l.e <[email protected]> wrote: > > hi jon, > > > >> This whole thread...what's the addage about painting a bikeshed? It > >> underscores my point about distractions from accomplishing a mission. > >> Are we here to make sites or a Foundation, both often covers for > >> trying to raise money to raise money, or are we trying to get > >> creative apps to work together better and build a flourishing > >> creative community? > >> > >> Also, I will point out the irony that all of our communication > >> happens on the create list and wiki. > >> > >> What's the point again? Or rather where is the concrete realidad to > >> this thread? > >> > >> Ok, im going to go back to getting LGM day at Foss.asia lined up, LGM > >> book, and then get sponsors for both... > > > > i can only give my point of view: > > > > - it's about an association not a foundation > > > > - this association should be a tool to promote the free software > > graphics tools in education, art and graphic industry > > > > - this association should take over the promotion coordination work > > among free software projects in the graphics field > > > > - this association should make sure that a LGM happens > > > > - this association should make sure that some sort of certification is > > developed which applies for the free software graphics tools. > > > > i have the feeling that CREATE, in its current form, can't manage most > > of those tasks. > > > > > > btw, i'm more than happy if we can have a foundation, maybe covering a > > broader field than the graphics software, that we can work with / rely > > upon. > > but, in my views, rightt now, we don't have a financial problem to focus > > on: we have to find out how to get the professional world to use our > > software. once they are REALLY using our applications, we will have to > > worry, how to collect some money from them! > > > > > > and, as yuval pointed, the biggest problem with CREATE is its name/url: > > > > - i'm not happy with having a sub-domain for it > > > > - we can't have create.org > > > > - it's too close to a suite which already leads the largest parts of > > the market we want to take over. > > > > (well, in an ideal world i would love to have the CREATE name... it's > > a wonderful name. much better than the one used for that suite. and much > > better than LG, too. but it's not available.) > > > > > > now, what's the point of starting by creating a website? no idea, but i > > guess that we have to start from somewhere and a website is a bit like > > a club house: a nice place where you feel welcome. > > we are discussing about this since a couple of years and it's nice to > > see the work start! > > > > > > just my 2.5c. > > > > ciao > > > > a.l.e > > > > > > > > > > p.s.: i was not aware that CREATE had activities outside of the > > graphics field. nice to know! > > _______________________________________________ > > CREATE mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create > > > > > > -- > Jon Phillips > http://rejon.org/ > http://fabricatorz.com/ > http://status.net/ > http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto > +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) > +86.187.1003.9974 (china) > _______________________________________________ > CREATE mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create >
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