A n00b question.

How do you extend this into crypto currencies when an transaction is not even 
represented by a coin. It’s just a currency. From this point of view a coin is 
just some sort of instance of a currency. Older ones are:

* Barter
* Coins
* Bills
* etc

best / tw



> On 20 nov 2014, at 21:21, Dan Matei <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hm...
> 
> If Manifestation Product Type is restricted to "expression carrier", then 
> please invent something similar for coins/medals/banknotes. There are so many 
> in museums :-)
> 
> There is a "Product Type" some numismats call "series", others call "issue". 
> Look at the American Numismatic Society (e.g. 
> http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1 
> <http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1>(2).aug.2A a "Product Type" with 5 
> items).
> 
> In practice, I would not be confortable with generic Types having properties 
> like "has_axis" or "has_edge_legend".
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 20 November 2014 21:29, martin <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> On 20/11/2014 7:01 μμ, Christian-Emil Smith Ore wrote:
> My view is that a coin is an information carrier and indeed is of the 
> category of objects found and stored  in a library
> C-E
> Dear Christian-Emil,
> 
> of course we can argue that there is information on it, but we do not acquire
> coins to get access to the "Expression" on it. A coin would be functional 
> even without any
> information on it. May be we overstrech the notion of "Expression" in this 
> case? Of course, the coin
> by its shape represents a symbol, but this symbol classifies the coin. If I 
> have 10 copies of Shakespeare,
> I would not argue to have acquired more Shakespeare, as I would with 10 Euro 
> coins.
> 
> It appears to me, that there is not enough similarity to classify a coin as a 
> Manifestation Product Type.
> 
> Opinions?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Maria
> Theodoridou
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:34 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Coins 2 CRM (again)
> 
> Dear Dan,
> 
> Indeed we have considered your thoughts and  we have defined as
> extensions for the coins and later for the CRM:
> 
> 
>         E12 Production. PC1 produced things of type: E55 Type
>         E22 Man-Made Object. PC2 is example of: E55 Type
> 
> 
> Both PC1 and PC2 are subproperties of P2 has type
> 
> The above are depicted in slide 23 in my presentation where I describe how
> we modeled the categorical production.
> 
> We believe that PC1 and PC2 are a generalization of R26 produced things of
> type and R7 is example of of FRBR.
> FRBR is not suitable for our coin modeling since it refers to bibliographic
> information, as Christian-Emil pointed out.
> 
> It is open for discussion  if there is a need for generalizing F32 
> Manifestation
> Product Type
> 
> This is a topic for future discussion in CRM-SIG.
> 
> Best regards,
> Maria
> 
> 
> On 19/11/2014 3:02 μμ, Dan Matei wrote:
> 
> 
>         Dear Maria
> 
> 
> 
>         Thanks you. I've read your (very useful) London presentation:
> 
> 
> 
>         http://www.slideshare.net/MariaTheodoridou/london-meetup2014- 
> <http://www.slideshare.net/MariaTheodoridou/london-meetup2014->
> mappingchi2cidoccrm
> <http://www.slideshare.net/MariaTheodoridou/london-meetup2014- 
> <http://www.slideshare.net/MariaTheodoridou/london-meetup2014->
> mappingchi2cidoccrm>
> 
> 
> 
>         and I plan to take advantage of the mapping:
> http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl/3M <http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl/3M> 
> <http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl/3M <http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl/3M>>
> 
> 
> 
>         But I'm tempted to treat the coins as exemplars of an "issue", i.e.
> 
> 
> 
>         <F5_Item> <crm:R7_is_example_of>
> <crm:F3_Manifestation_Product_Type>
> 
> 
> 
>         IMHO, a thing like:
> 
> 
> 
>         http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1(2).cl.31 
> <http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1(2).cl.31>
> <http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1%282%29.cl.31 
> <http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1%282%29.cl.31>>
> 
> 
> 
>         is a F3, mutatis mutandis.
> 
> 
> 
>         When you did your mapping did you considered something like this ?
> And which were the arguments against ?
> 
> 
> 
>         Best,
> 
> 
> 
>         Dan
> 
> 
> 
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