Would that be “Billy the Cow”? Rgds
SdS NB Only attendees to my tutorials will get this joke! Stephen Stead Tel +44 20 8668 3075 Mob +44 7802 755 013 E-mail <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] LinkedIn Profile <http://uk.linkedin.com/in/steads> http://uk.linkedin.com/in/steads From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan Matei Sent: 20 November 2014 21:04 To: Wikman Thomas Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Coins 2 CRM (again) ... not to mention COWS :-) http://storyarchaeology.com/cows-as-currency/ On 20 November 2014 22:31, Wikman Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: A n00b question. How do you extend this into crypto currencies when an transaction is not even represented by a coin. It’s just a currency. From this point of view a coin is just some sort of instance of a currency. Older ones are: * Barter * Coins * Bills * etc best / tw On 20 nov 2014, at 21:21, Dan Matei <[email protected]> wrote: Hm... If Manifestation Product Type is restricted to "expression carrier", then please invent something similar for coins/medals/banknotes. There are so many in museums :-) There is a "Product Type" some numismats call "series", others call "issue". Look at the American Numismatic Society (e.g. <http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1> http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1(2).aug.2A a "Product Type" with 5 items). In practice, I would not be confortable with generic Types having properties like "has_axis" or "has_edge_legend". Dan On 20 November 2014 21:29, martin <[email protected]> wrote: On 20/11/2014 7:01 μμ, Christian-Emil Smith Ore wrote: My view is that a coin is an information carrier and indeed is of the category of objects found and stored in a library C-E Dear Christian-Emil, of course we can argue that there is information on it, but we do not acquire coins to get access to the "Expression" on it. A coin would be functional even without any information on it. May be we overstrech the notion of "Expression" in this case? Of course, the coin by its shape represents a symbol, but this symbol classifies the coin. If I have 10 copies of Shakespeare, I would not argue to have acquired more Shakespeare, as I would with 10 Euro coins. It appears to me, that there is not enough similarity to classify a coin as a Manifestation Product Type. Opinions? Best, Martin -----Original Message----- From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maria Theodoridou Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Coins 2 CRM (again) Dear Dan, Indeed we have considered your thoughts and we have defined as extensions for the coins and later for the CRM: E12 Production. PC1 produced things of type: E55 Type E22 Man-Made Object. PC2 is example of: E55 Type Both PC1 and PC2 are subproperties of P2 has type The above are depicted in slide 23 in my presentation where I describe how we modeled the categorical production. We believe that PC1 and PC2 are a generalization of R26 produced things of type and R7 is example of of FRBR. FRBR is not suitable for our coin modeling since it refers to bibliographic information, as Christian-Emil pointed out. It is open for discussion if there is a need for generalizing F32 Manifestation Product Type This is a topic for future discussion in CRM-SIG. Best regards, Maria On 19/11/2014 3:02 μμ, Dan Matei wrote: Dear Maria Thanks you. I've read your (very useful) London presentation: http://www.slideshare.net/MariaTheodoridou/london-meetup2014- mappingchi2cidoccrm <http://www.slideshare.net/MariaTheodoridou/london-meetup2014- mappingchi2cidoccrm> and I plan to take advantage of the mapping: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl/3M <http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl/3M> But I'm tempted to treat the coins as exemplars of an "issue", i.e. <F5_Item> <crm:R7_is_example_of> <crm:F3_Manifestation_Product_Type> IMHO, a thing like: http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1(2).cl.31 <http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1%282%29.cl.31> is a F3, mutatis mutandis. When you did your mapping did you considered something like this ? And which were the arguments against ? Best, Dan _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maria Theodoridou R & D Engineer Information Systems Laboratory & Centre for Cultural Informatics Institute of Computer Science Foundation of Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, GR-711 10 Heraklion, Crete, Greece Tel.: +30-2810-391731 <tel:%2B30-2810-391731> Fax: +30-2810-391638 <tel:%2B30-2810-391638> E-mail: [email protected] URL: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Martin Doerr | Vox:+30(2810)391625 <tel:%2B30%282810%29391625> | Research Director | Fax:+30(2810)391638 <tel:%2B30%282810%29391638> | | Email: [email protected] | | Center for Cultural Informatics | Information Systems Laboratory | Institute of Computer Science | Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) | | N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, | GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece | | Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl | -------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Matei Institutul Național al Patrimoniului (National Heritage Institute) - București Fundația Gellu Naum TermRom - Asociația Română de Terminologie _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Matei Institutul Național al Patrimoniului (National Heritage Institute) - București Fundația Gellu Naum TermRom - Asociația Română de Terminologie
