... not to mention COWS :-) http://storyarchaeology.com/cows-as-currency/
On 20 November 2014 22:31, Wikman Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > A n00b question. > > How do you extend this into crypto currencies when an transaction is not > even represented by a coin. It’s just a currency. From this point of view a > coin is just some sort of instance of a currency. Older ones are: > > * Barter > * Coins > * Bills > * etc > > best / tw > > > > On 20 nov 2014, at 21:21, Dan Matei <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hm... > > If Manifestation Product Type is restricted to "expression carrier", then > please invent something similar for coins/medals/banknotes. There are so > many in museums :-) > > There is a "Product Type" some numismats call "series", others call > "issue". Look at the American Numismatic Society (e.g. > http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1(2).aug.2A a "Product Type" with 5 > items). > > In practice, I would not be confortable with generic Types having > properties like "has_axis" or "has_edge_legend". > > Dan > > > > > On 20 November 2014 21:29, martin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 20/11/2014 7:01 μμ, Christian-Emil Smith Ore wrote: >> >>> My view is that a coin is an information carrier and indeed is of the >>> category of objects found and stored in a library >>> C-E >>> >> Dear Christian-Emil, >> >> of course we can argue that there is information on it, but we do not >> acquire >> coins to get access to the "Expression" on it. A coin would be functional >> even without any >> information on it. May be we overstrech the notion of "Expression" in >> this case? Of course, the coin >> by its shape represents a symbol, but this symbol classifies the coin. If >> I have 10 copies of Shakespeare, >> I would not argue to have acquired more Shakespeare, as I would with 10 >> Euro coins. >> >> It appears to me, that there is not enough similarity to classify a coin >> as a Manifestation Product Type. >> >> Opinions? >> >> Best, >> >> Martin >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maria >>>> Theodoridou >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:34 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Coins 2 CRM (again) >>>> >>>> Dear Dan, >>>> >>>> Indeed we have considered your thoughts and we have defined as >>>> extensions for the coins and later for the CRM: >>>> >>>> >>>> E12 Production. PC1 produced things of type: E55 Type >>>> E22 Man-Made Object. PC2 is example of: E55 Type >>>> >>>> >>>> Both PC1 and PC2 are subproperties of P2 has type >>>> >>>> The above are depicted in slide 23 in my presentation where I describe >>>> how >>>> we modeled the categorical production. >>>> >>>> We believe that PC1 and PC2 are a generalization of R26 produced things >>>> of >>>> type and R7 is example of of FRBR. >>>> FRBR is not suitable for our coin modeling since it refers to >>>> bibliographic >>>> information, as Christian-Emil pointed out. >>>> >>>> It is open for discussion if there is a need for generalizing F32 >>>> Manifestation >>>> Product Type >>>> >>>> This is a topic for future discussion in CRM-SIG. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maria >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19/11/2014 3:02 μμ, Dan Matei wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Maria >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks you. I've read your (very useful) London presentation: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.slideshare.net/MariaTheodoridou/london-meetup2014- >>>> mappingchi2cidoccrm >>>> <http://www.slideshare.net/MariaTheodoridou/london-meetup2014- >>>> mappingchi2cidoccrm> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> and I plan to take advantage of the mapping: >>>> http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl/3M <http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl/3M> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But I'm tempted to treat the coins as exemplars of an "issue", >>>> i.e. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <F5_Item> <crm:R7_is_example_of> >>>> <crm:F3_Manifestation_Product_Type> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> IMHO, a thing like: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1(2).cl.31 >>>> <http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1%282%29.cl.31> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> is a F3, mutatis mutandis. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When you did your mapping did you considered something like >>>> this ? >>>> And which were the arguments against ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Crm-sig mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ------------ >>>> Maria Theodoridou >>>> R & D Engineer >>>> >>>> Information Systems Laboratory & Centre for Cultural Informatics >>>> Institute of >>>> Computer Science Foundation of Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) >>>> Science and Technology Park of Crete Vassilika Vouton, P.O.Box 1385, >>>> GR-711 >>>> 10 Heraklion, Crete, Greece >>>> >>>> Tel.: +30-2810-391731 Fax: +30-2810-391638 E-mail: >>>> [email protected] >>>> URL: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ------------ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Crm-sig mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> Dr. Martin Doerr | Vox:+30(2810)391625 | >> Research Director | Fax:+30(2810)391638 | >> | Email: [email protected] | >> | >> Center for Cultural Informatics | >> Information Systems Laboratory | >> Institute of Computer Science | >> Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) | >> | >> N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, | >> GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece | >> | >> Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl | >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Crm-sig mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig >> > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dan Matei > Institutul Național al Patrimoniului (National Heritage Institute) - > București > Fundația Gellu Naum > TermRom - Asociația Română de Terminologie > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Matei Institutul Național al Patrimoniului (National Heritage Institute) - București Fundația Gellu Naum TermRom - Asociația Română de Terminologie
