They have fixed a small fraction of the issues that exist, and have broken countless more things with the updates. Most fixes released are for tiny issues that people hardly even care about, everything else is simply being ignored. It is very clear that they do not care about the community at all, but this is nothing new. It is sad, but it looks like Valve/HPE simply does not want to see this game succeed long term.
With so many issues making modding impossible, this game will slowly die out once the competitive community finds something new. I'd say that CSS would live on after CS:GO, but the fact is they already broke the sv_pure implementation in CSS over 16 months ago, breaking all custom content downloads for any players who do not stick to a single server. That single bug not only breaks the downloaded content but also forces clients to redownload it on every connection, wasting both the client and servers bandwidth, as well as chasing away players on slower connections. Since it is clear they are making no effort to fix anything but the vanilla functionality, I do not expect that this, or any other of the major issues will be fixed in CSS or CS:GO any time soon, if ever. On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Absurd Minds <[email protected]> wrote: > They've fixed so many things posted here. Are you crazy? > > On Oct 13, 2012 2:16 AM, "Travis Brown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> All a bunch of valid points. To bad it is not cared about. Ive stated >> numerous times on this list of things that need to be fixed and it never >> gets fixed. The real public beta of this game is right now and the devs have >> selective hearing. >> >> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Ryan Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> What I think it boils down to is that it's hard to tell when you're >>> really being heard - whether you're posting in the forums, on the mailing >>> list or that unofficial bug tracker @ http://64bitvps.com/csgo/. >>> Frustrations, sometimes in the form of harsh language, are going to come >>> out. And I think many of us share these frustrations. Some of us have >>> given up - while others are more passionate about seeing a change for the >>> better, especially when we have active gaming communities we have to answer >>> to when something breaks. I rarely see anyone from Valve/HPE post to this >>> mailing list and when they do - it's very brief. From what I can tell, >>> there's is not a good line of communication between Valve/HPE and the >>> community (server operators, admins, modders, players, etc). I can only >>> speculate on how Valve/HPE prioritizes what their development teams focuses >>> on. But I think it's safe to assume that there are very few developers that >>> even look at the CS:GO code anymore. Valve has already made bank on a >>> rushed release. (Does anyone honestly believe it wasn't rushed?) CS:S is >>> possibly my favorite FPS of all time and I was really exciting for CS:GO but >>> from the way things have been going so far, it has been a huge >>> disappointment. Granted, it was only about $14-15 - and I feel like at that >>> price point - the amount of resources Valve is willing to dedicate to >>> improving/bug fixing the game is really showing. I would be very surprised >>> to find out that Ido, or anyone else @ Valve/HPE for that matter, even reads >>> 10% of what is discussed here. >>> >>> I won't even pretend to understand all the facets of game development, >>> but I think it can be hard for us to understand why the things that worked >>> well and what we loved about 1.6 and CS:S - are broken or just poorly >>> implemented in CS:GO. >>> >>> Here are the primary examples of things that were done right in CS:S/1.6 >>> but are now broken or missing from CS:GO: >>> Who honestly thought that using the # keys to switch between players >>> during spectate, was an useful/important feature? It has been known for >>> some time now that it breaks sourcemod menus - do you think we can ever >>> expect this to change? I'm starting to seriously doubt it. >>> I love the simplicity of CS:S's menus (and other Valve games for that >>> matter). This poor attempt to mimic Call of Duty style menus, is very >>> off-putting. All I had to do was click Find Servers and double click on >>> the server I want to join. Now I have extra clicks to get to the community >>> servers. Fortunately one of those clicks was eliminated when we were FINALLY >>> given the open to ignore that pointless pop-up forever (Did Valve think they >>> were tapping into a brand new demographic when they released this game) >>> would it have been too much to ask that the Community Servers menu option be >>> included on the root menu? >>> I know it's a very basic thing, but now I can't hit the Escape key to get >>> out of the Community Servers listing - I have to click the small x in the >>> top right corner. I've become so used to CS:S menus. >>> ALT+TABBING back and forth to the game causes it to crash a lot more than >>> it used to. >>> Why disable sprays? Most of the functionality seems to be there. Would >>> it be too much to ask for a cvar to allow it? >>> Why can't we spectate our killer immediately after death even if there >>> are bots? Even when you set sv_botcontrollable 0. >>> We're still dealing with that extremely annoying blur effect at the >>> beginning of a custom map. We've had to set our warmup and first level >>> weapons for armsrace/gungame to scoped weapons as a workaround. But even >>> this isn't a workaround for players joining the game late. >>> No Free-look spectating. >>> No way to mute specific players and adjust voice send/receive volumes. >>> No Bunnyhopping and boost cvars. The deathrun, gungame, bhop, climb, >>> etc. community would much appreciate it if these features were added back >>> in. >>> Sort by something other than "score" in scoreboard. Some of us would >>> rather see K/D ratio take priority. >>> Ability to disable in-game music - again, this isn't Call of Duty. >>> No motd chat command. Can only view motd when first joining the server. >>> Loading screens that actually tell me if it's downloading custom files >>> from servers. >>> And the most mind-boggling thing that's missing is the "retry" command. >>> Dear Science, WHY!? >>> >>> The aforementioned, although basic stuff, has really affected my desire >>> to even load up CS:GO. And I have several friends who feel the same. The >>> longer it takes to fix these the things we've become accustomed and have >>> generally come to expect - the more CS:GO's player base will dwindle. >>> >>> >>> > > Step back and take a look at your message. You start by complaining >>> > > about >>> > > all the complaining that's going on, then you continue to complain >>> > > about >>> > > more things. I really don't think there's anything that can be done >>> > > to >>> > > please you at this point. >>> > Yeah, from a certain perspective, that's true. (ie, from a perspective >>> > that complaining about anything is just more complaining). >>> > It's not about "pleasing me", jholland, and I'm not asking for a >>> > refund. >>> > I'm saying they ought to be focusing more on fixing bugs than >>> > introducing >>> > new features at this point. Every devel shop has a "bug budget" and/or >>> > "devel budget" - ie there is only so much time with the people they >>> > have >>> > etc. and they have to decide what can be fixed etc. and things have to >>> > get >>> > prioritized. I am questioning what their priorities are. >>> > And yeah, I realize they ARE fixing bugs - I do read the update news >>> > every >>> > time - but they broke a major thing with last night's update and it >>> > wasn't >>> > in the release notes... >>> > We may be able to rebind OUR keys, but map voting by any other players, >>> > unless they are alive, is broken too. I don't see a lot of value in >>> > trying to convince the few stragglers we get anymore, and who are only >>> > going to probably stick around for a few minutes anyway, that they need >>> > to >>> > re-bind a bunch of keys so they can vote for the next map or otherwise >>> > use >>> > the popup menus. How many of them do you think will bother? They'll >>> > just >>> > disconnect and go somewhere else. 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