Vanilla is a long standing term meaning "basic" or "no frills", this isn't
even a software/programming thing - this is just a basic English usage
thing.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Mike Didiano <[email protected]> wrote:

> Am I the only one that finds in funny that people do nothing but complain
> about how terrible VAC is, but then go batshit crazy when it isn’t working
> properly? Sheeeeesh…patience!****
>
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dusan Tomic
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:53 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Csgo_servers] VAC vs. Sourcemod****
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> Vanilla term is used commonly in developing communities since long time
> ago... it's not only about CSGO servers... it's about any software provided
> as is.  ****
>
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>
> Regarding problem with VAC, it seems that if you run ANY mods (not just
> SM, etc) on Windows server you won't be able to run secure server, eos. So
> it's either no mods, or no VAC, so far.****
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> *Od:* [email protected] [
> [email protected]] u ime korisnika Michael
> Loveless [[email protected]]
> *Poslato:* 5. jun 2013 17:44
> *Za:* [email protected]
> *Tema:* Re: [Csgo_servers] VAC vs. Sourcemod****
>
> Oh really? Thanks for clarifying that LOL. Refer back to the line where it
> was stated that when milk and ice are combined, it doesn't magically create
> the flavor of vanilla. Which means, since the obvious needs to be
> explained, if a server is a clean install, it is not vanilla, since a
> flavor (addon) has to be added to the ice cream formula (server) to create
> the outcome of vanilla. Sorry to take this off topic but sweet jesus the
> terms some people use are just out of control. ****
>
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> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Marcin Paterek <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vanilla****
>
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> Vanilla means normal server without any add-ons.****
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> 2013/6/5 Michael Loveless <[email protected]>****
>
> Techgunner, we have been running SourceMod Anti Cheat on our servers since
> last week's update as an alternative so that we are at least somewhat
> protected. We have a good amount of admins fortunately so we pretty much
> have someone on the server all day to help govern. The minor glitches with
> SMAC, such as disappearing guns, are in my mind an acceptable issue at this
> point in order to keep our servers as cheat free as possible.  ****
>
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>
> Everyone else, what is with the term Vanilla? Is it really necessary to
> have some witty terminology for EVERYTHING? Is a server with plugins
> considered a chocolate server, or even a strawberry server? Maybe we could
> start calling them half moon servers if they have just basic Source mod
> installed with no other plugins? Plus, it's actually stupid when you think
> about it because untainted ice cream is simply milk and ice, vanilla is a
> flavor added. ****
>
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> Love always and best regards, Michael. ****
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> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Marcin Paterek <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> The question is DO they consider it as an issue? Vanilla servers work
> fine, so they can say more or less the same as AlliedModders team — it
> isn't a bug on our end...****
>
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> 2013/6/5 {{A-BS}} Techgunner <[email protected]>****
>
> It has been frustrating to say the least. Windows Server Administrators
> have two choices. Either run the server(s) in Insecured Mode which results
> in loss of players due to risk of hackers, or run the server in VAC and not
> be able to use Admin plugins that have been configured to administrate the
> server(s) more efficiently. And on top of that, since I posted the original
> issue right after last weeks patch, I have had no response from Ido or
> anyone else at Valve. I understand that Valve is not responsible for third
> party mods, but in an effort to rectify the situation, should roll back the
> update until they can determine the root cause of the issue.
>
> Regards,
>
> ****
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> {{A-BS}}™Techgunner****
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> On 6/5/2013 3:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:****
>
> Hey,
>
> just wait maybe 12 hours. In the past valve released a CS:GO patch on
> wednesday - in germany for example on ca. at 2am on thursday!
> i dont know if there will be a patch today but i expect an update/patch
> today!
>
>
> Am 05.06.2013 11:56, schrieb violet:****
>
> As the Valve update and the second update to fix VAC security has failed
> and Allied Modders says "This is a bug on Valve's end, we will not be
> addressing it directly at this time.", what is the timing on Valve fixing
> their issue?****
>
> It's 6 days later and whenever asked, Valve response is quiet.. PLEASE
> communicate some information to us in how this is being handled and what
> the expected timing is on your fix. ****
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> Thank you,****
>
> Susanne****
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> insatiable gaming****
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