So does that means its a Vanilla English thing ;)


On 6 June 2013 10:03, Gordon Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> Vanilla is a long standing term meaning "basic" or "no frills", this isn't
> even a software/programming thing - this is just a basic English usage
> thing.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Mike Didiano <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Am I the only one that finds in funny that people do nothing but complain
>> about how terrible VAC is, but then go batshit crazy when it isn’t working
>> properly? Sheeeeesh…patience!****
>>
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>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dusan Tomic
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:53 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [Csgo_servers] VAC vs. Sourcemod****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Vanilla term is used commonly in developing communities since long time
>> ago... it's not only about CSGO servers... it's about any software provided
>> as is.  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Regarding problem with VAC, it seems that if you run ANY mods (not just
>> SM, etc) on Windows server you won't be able to run secure server, eos. So
>> it's either no mods, or no VAC, so far.****
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>> *Od:* [email protected] [
>> [email protected]] u ime korisnika Michael
>> Loveless [[email protected]]
>> *Poslato:* 5. jun 2013 17:44
>> *Za:* [email protected]
>> *Tema:* Re: [Csgo_servers] VAC vs. Sourcemod****
>>
>> Oh really? Thanks for clarifying that LOL. Refer back to the line where
>> it was stated that when milk and ice are combined, it doesn't magically
>> create the flavor of vanilla. Which means, since the obvious needs to be
>> explained, if a server is a clean install, it is not vanilla, since a
>> flavor (addon) has to be added to the ice cream formula (server) to create
>> the outcome of vanilla. Sorry to take this off topic but sweet jesus the
>> terms some people use are just out of control. ****
>>
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>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Marcin Paterek <[email protected]>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vanilla****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Vanilla means normal server without any add-ons.****
>>
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>> 2013/6/5 Michael Loveless <[email protected]>****
>>
>> Techgunner, we have been running SourceMod Anti Cheat on our servers
>> since last week's update as an alternative so that we are at least somewhat
>> protected. We have a good amount of admins fortunately so we pretty much
>> have someone on the server all day to help govern. The minor glitches with
>> SMAC, such as disappearing guns, are in my mind an acceptable issue at this
>> point in order to keep our servers as cheat free as possible.  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Everyone else, what is with the term Vanilla? Is it really necessary to
>> have some witty terminology for EVERYTHING? Is a server with plugins
>> considered a chocolate server, or even a strawberry server? Maybe we could
>> start calling them half moon servers if they have just basic Source mod
>> installed with no other plugins? Plus, it's actually stupid when you think
>> about it because untainted ice cream is simply milk and ice, vanilla is a
>> flavor added. ****
>>
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>>
>> Love always and best regards, Michael. ****
>>
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>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Marcin Paterek <[email protected]>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> The question is DO they consider it as an issue? Vanilla servers work
>> fine, so they can say more or less the same as AlliedModders team — it
>> isn't a bug on our end...****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 2013/6/5 {{A-BS}} Techgunner <[email protected]>****
>>
>> It has been frustrating to say the least. Windows Server Administrators
>> have two choices. Either run the server(s) in Insecured Mode which results
>> in loss of players due to risk of hackers, or run the server in VAC and not
>> be able to use Admin plugins that have been configured to administrate the
>> server(s) more efficiently. And on top of that, since I posted the original
>> issue right after last weeks patch, I have had no response from Ido or
>> anyone else at Valve. I understand that Valve is not responsible for third
>> party mods, but in an effort to rectify the situation, should roll back the
>> update until they can determine the root cause of the issue.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> ****
>>
>> {{A-BS}}™Techgunner****
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>> On 6/5/2013 3:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:****
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> just wait maybe 12 hours. In the past valve released a CS:GO patch on
>> wednesday - in germany for example on ca. at 2am on thursday!
>> i dont know if there will be a patch today but i expect an update/patch
>> today!
>>
>>
>> Am 05.06.2013 11:56, schrieb violet:****
>>
>> As the Valve update and the second update to fix VAC security has failed
>> and Allied Modders says "This is a bug on Valve's end, we will not be
>> addressing it directly at this time.", what is the timing on Valve fixing
>> their issue?****
>>
>> It's 6 days later and whenever asked, Valve response is quiet.. PLEASE
>> communicate some information to us in how this is being handled and what
>> the expected timing is on your fix. ****
>>
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>> Thank you,****
>>
>> Susanne****
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