Vanilla term is used commonly in developing communities since long time ago... 
it's not only about CSGO servers... it's about any software provided as is.

Regarding problem with VAC, it seems that if you run ANY mods (not just SM, 
etc) on Windows server you won't be able to run secure server, eos. So it's 
either no mods, or no VAC, so far.
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[[email protected]] u ime korisnika Michael Loveless 
[[email protected]]
Poslato: 5. jun 2013 17:44
Za: [email protected]
Tema: Re: [Csgo_servers] VAC vs. Sourcemod

Oh really? Thanks for clarifying that LOL. Refer back to the line where it was 
stated that when milk and ice are combined, it doesn't magically create the 
flavor of vanilla. Which means, since the obvious needs to be explained, if a 
server is a clean install, it is not vanilla, since a flavor (addon) has to be 
added to the ice cream formula (server) to create the outcome of vanilla. Sorry 
to take this off topic but sweet jesus the terms some people use are just out 
of control.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Marcin Paterek 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vanilla

Vanilla means normal server without any add-ons.


2013/6/5 Michael Loveless 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Techgunner, we have been running SourceMod Anti Cheat on our servers since last 
week's update as an alternative so that we are at least somewhat protected. We 
have a good amount of admins fortunately so we pretty much have someone on the 
server all day to help govern. The minor glitches with SMAC, such as 
disappearing guns, are in my mind an acceptable issue at this point in order to 
keep our servers as cheat free as possible.

Everyone else, what is with the term Vanilla? Is it really necessary to have 
some witty terminology for EVERYTHING? Is a server with plugins considered a 
chocolate server, or even a strawberry server? Maybe we could start calling 
them half moon servers if they have just basic Source mod installed with no 
other plugins? Plus, it's actually stupid when you think about it because 
untainted ice cream is simply milk and ice, vanilla is a flavor added.

Love always and best regards, Michael.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Marcin Paterek 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The question is DO they consider it as an issue? Vanilla servers work fine, so 
they can say more or less the same as AlliedModders team — it isn't a bug on 
our end...


2013/6/5 {{A-BS}} Techgunner 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
It has been frustrating to say the least. Windows Server Administrators have 
two choices. Either run the server(s) in Insecured Mode which results in loss 
of players due to risk of hackers, or run the server in VAC and not be able to 
use Admin plugins that have been configured to administrate the server(s) more 
efficiently. And on top of that, since I posted the original issue right after 
last weeks patch, I have had no response from Ido or anyone else at Valve. I 
understand that Valve is not responsible for third party mods, but in an effort 
to rectify the situation, should roll back the update until they can determine 
the root cause of the issue.

Regards,

{{A-BS}}™Techgunner
Clan Leader/Founder
American BloodSport Gaming Community
www.americanbloodsport.com<http://www.americanbloodsport.com>

On 6/5/2013 3:01 AM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hey,

just wait maybe 12 hours. In the past valve released a CS:GO patch on wednesday 
- in germany for example on ca. at 2am on thursday!
i dont know if there will be a patch today but i expect an update/patch today!


Am 05.06.2013 11:56, schrieb violet:
As the Valve update and the second update to fix VAC security has failed and 
Allied Modders says "This is a bug on Valve's end, we will not be addressing it 
directly at this time.", what is the timing on Valve fixing their issue?

It's 6 days later and whenever asked, Valve response is quiet.. PLEASE 
communicate some information to us in how this is being handled and what the 
expected timing is on your fix.

Thank you,
Susanne
insatiable gaming



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