Hi, My company does exactly the same, but I found Riaan's stats a bit warped, I have found that about 1 in 10 applicants submits the project!!(honestly) We also interview only fresh java programmers as part of a new policy; we have enough skill and leadership inhouse already, we'd rather train new blood rather than get stuck with old hands that are stuck in their ways and that is not willing to adapt to new ideas and technologies. They just stuck.
O, and yes, we do the clique thing, we get the young guys to introduce their project partners(in tech) to us. We take them through the same tests and see if they are our type of employee. What tests do we give them? We make them follow the instructions on www.gentoo.org and install a linux box, with various packages that they will use every day. Why do we do this? Some interviewers like to stress out a young guy with his superior java knowledge, this is wrong and pointless. In Technikon you are going to do 6 subjects at one time, you do not get to focus only on java, otherwise you will never pass! Some people with avg mark on all their subjects are more likely to get a job at my company then somebody with 90 - 100% java year marks. Finally, when they get the job, we do skill rotation and after only 1 year they will know all the facets of our product and they will have in my opionion about 2 years worth of experience. We also pay well right from the start(so it is not that we are stingy), with regular salary increments. Our situation is probably not ideal for all companies, but it is something that works VERY well for us. Robert On Wednesday 15 February 2006 08:37, Dr Heinz M. Kabutz wrote: > Riaan that is a great policy! > > What type of project would you as an employer be > impressed by? > > Kind regards from > > Heinz > -- > Dr. Heinz M. Kabutz (Maximum Solutions) > Sun Java Champion > Author of "The Java(tm) Specialists' Newsletter" > <http://www.javaspecialists.co.za/> > Tel: +27 (83) 340-5633 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Riaan Koegelenberg > > Sent: 15 February 2006 10:23 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Re: Java Developer needed > > > > > > > > After 20 odd replies on my initial post, I have received > > only 2 CV's. > > > > I wonder, do people really put in an effort to find a job > > or do they want someone to just offer them a job that pays > > well without having to do much? > > > > It is my company's policy to require any new applicant to > > submit a project that allows us to asses his/her > > capabilities. Stats have shown that if you have 5 > > applicants, you are lucky if 2 actually submits the > > project. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm > > > > http://www.webmail.co.za the South African FREE email service
