hey dude, unfortunately I don't have the honour of working with Java much in my daytime job, but my first love is Java (surely yours too, if you take a pseudonym like "Java Mad"?) - so my Java time is between 8pm and 2pm, depending on deadlines from my job and entertaining the wife and kids - and yes I'm one of those guys in a catch-22 situation where I desperately want to get into a company where Java is used as a primary technology and get some intense real-world experience with it, but because I don't already have the experience I can't get seem to get that opportunity.
 
So, i guess i'll have to continue working with the "inferior" technology that I'm paid to use, and keep twisting my boss's arm into letting me squeeze a bit of Java in here and there to get me some level of experience that might one day be enough to get that Java job I dream of....
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Java Mad
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:06 PM
Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Re: Java Developer needed

Well i can meet up with that requirement too Riaan
Send it on... if you want it in Java ill give it in Java
But then again... when will i have time during the day
unfortunately i have a 8-5 job and after that its my time...


Riaan Koegelenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Java Mad.

I am going to quote Quinton: "...and when you say you want
to work with Java, they say 'Yes, _javascript_ is one of the
skills our client is looking for'..."

Therefore, when we require applicants to write a Java
application, _javascript_ and _vbscript_ unfortunately does not
count.

JSP, Servlets, Beans, classes does.



On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:26:58 -0800 (PST)
Java Mad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>Send it on Riaan,
> Although i dont have the tools to do it in a server-side
>technology
> ill prove to you that i can do it in a client-side
>technology
>
> Normalization.... how easy can that be....
> SQL... how easy can that be
> _javascript_/_vbscript_ with a connection to the database
>
> well send it on
>
>Riaan Koegelenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>Hi Heinz
>
>Most of the work we do is web development. We therefore
>normally provide all applicants with an Access database
>that they have to normalise and then they have to write a
>web app that reads from and insert into the database. We
>do not tell them exactly what to do as this allows them to
>be innovative.
>
>Points are scored for the architecture that they use and
>the documentation that accompanies the app.
>
>It is however shocking how few applicants are actually
>willing to do the assignment.
>
>PS thanks for submitting your CV. I am however sad to
>inform you that you appear to be over qualified for the
>position :)
>
>That will cause quite another stir I suppose...
>
>>Riaan that is a great policy!
>>
>>What type of project would you as an employer be
>>impressed by?
>>
>>Kind regards from
>>
>>Heinz
>>--
>>Dr. Heinz M. Kabutz (Maximum Solutions)
>>Sun Java Champion
>>Author of "The Java(tm) Specialists' Newsletter"
>>
>>Tel: +27 (83) 340-5633
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Riaan
>>Koegelenberg
>>> Sent: 15 February 2006 10:23
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Re: Java Developer needed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After 20 odd replies on my initial post, I have
>received
>>> only 2 CV's.
>>>
>>> I wonder, do people really put in an effort to find a
>>job
>>> or do they want someone to just offer them a job that
>>pays
>>> well without having to do much?
>>>
>>> It is my company's policy to require any new applicant
>>to
>>> submit a project that allows us to asses his/her
>>> capabilities. Stats have shown that if you have 5
>>> applicants, you are lucky if 2 actually submits the
>>> project.
>>>
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