Isn't it quite hard to get accepted into the really good OS projects? Also, I don't think that having worked on an OS would impress the typical corporate.
A really cool application / website though could. Especially if you have followed good PROCESS in getting there. (By the way, there is a SPIN meeting tonight looking at architecture. Worthwhile group. http://www.spin.org.za) Technical ability is just one small part of software development. So, the project would need to use best practices for building the system, with source control, GOOD documentation, unit testing, etc. Not just a tic-tac-toe game, but something which a corporate potential employer could look at and be impressed. We would need a proper project plan and a project manager. I know an excellent project manager who might be willing to donate a few hours here and there. Kind regards from Heinz -- Dr. Heinz M. Kabutz (Maximum Solutions) Sun Java Champion Author of "The Java(tm) Specialists' Newsletter" <http://www.javaspecialists.co.za/> Tel: +27 (83) 340-5633 > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Silberbauer > Sent: 15 February 2006 09:35 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Re: Java Developer needed > > > > Have any of your freinds worked on open source projects during this > time? I'd like to think this would be a great way to gain experience > while looking for work or while studying. I'd be interested to know > whether hiring companies would take this into concideration - I would, > as experience and certificates (degrees etc) come well below , but do > agencies know what OS is? > > On 2/15/06, Clint Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Dr.. > > > > I have a few friends that graduated end of last year and middle last > > year at Cape Technikon and they have been at home ever > since, Why???? > > No work experience and companies are not willing to take 3 > months and > > give these guys some training, however they studied java. > > > > Most graduates that I have spoken to are willing to take > any Java job > > and stay with the company for 2 years or more since it > their first job > > but companies are not willing to train these guys since > they say that > > they will leave them 3 months later as soon as they get work > > experience on the CV. > > > > The major problem here is, certain companies not willing to > invest in > > their staff, or maybe only invest in certain staff along certain > > criteria, but that is another discussion at another time. > > > > On 2/14/06, Java Mad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > and another thing > > > shortage of skills is just an illusion in your mind Dr. > > > > > > One thing i can tell you is that they teach Java at both > Universities and > > > Technicons > > > plus private institutions, CPUT event moved on to teach > C# and i was > > > suprised about that. > > > > > > So tell me how many gratuduates are there over the past > years that were > > > trained > > > in Java. Tell me how many university,technikon,college > students are there > > > that > > > did a project whether big or small at > university,tech,college level. > > > > > > Please tell me that Doctor and ill be satisfied. > > > You make it sound that its only white graduates that do > Java at these > > > institutions > > > Well to tell the truth thats BULL. > > > > > > "Dr Heinz M. Kabutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Java Mad, > > > > > > I'm still seeking an answer to the mystery of why there > are no available > > > skills here in Cape Town. Gauteng seems to have the same problem. > > > > > > Prove me wrong. No problem. But give me an explanation > that makes sense... > > > Kind regards from > > > > > > Heinz > > > -- > > > Dr. Heinz M. Kabutz (Maximum Solutions) > > > Sun Java Champion > > > Author of "The Java(tm) Specialists' Newsletter" > > > <http://www.javaspecialists.co.za/> > > > Tel: +27 (83) 340-5633 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Behalf Of Java Mad > > > Sent: 14 February 2006 16:03 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [CTJUG Forum] Re: Java Developer needed > > > > > > > > > Im gona prove you wrong Heinz.... > > > Like you said here is no skills > > > Ive got 1.5 years experience > > > Im not Black neither White maybe Khoi-San, San, not even Malaysian > > > The second minority > > > Still stuck somewhere in between... a proud south african > > > > > > > > > But still bet a white person will get the post if Riaan > will tell the truth > > > about the outcomes of the post > > > > > > Riaan Koegelenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Heinz > > > > > > I am not sure, but the client, for whom we are going to do > > > the contract, has requested a BEE appointment. I would > > > therefore think that they are quite serious about it. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Riaan > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:11:01 +0200 > > > "Dr Heinz M. Kabutz" wrote: > > > > > > > >Hi Riaan, > > > > > > > >we had an interesting discussion the other day on CTJUG > > > >where I was shot down for suggesting that it is getting > > > >more difficult for white males to get Java development > > > >work and that this is one of the reasons that we are > > > >experiencing a shortage of skills in Cape Town. > > > > > > > >In this particular job, how critical is it that the > > > >person be black? > > > > > > > >Kind regards from > > > > > > > >Heinz > > > >-- > > > >Dr. Heinz M. Kabutz (Maximum Solutions) > > > >Sun Java Champion > > > >Author of "The Java(tm) Specialists' Newsletter" > > > > > > > >Tel: +27 (83) 340-5633 > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm > > > > > > http://www.webmail.co.za the South African FREE email service > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Yahoo! Mail > > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kind Regards, > > Clint Lewis > > > > > -- > Brian Silberbauer > Consultant > > +27 (0)83 566 2705 > skype: brian.silberbauer > >
