Re: [CTRL] Kris Millegan's Recent False Charges in CTRL

Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:25:46 -0700

-Caveat Lector-
The following is the sum total of the e-mails between me and Sean regarding the Quig e-mails. Read from the bottom up.
 
Sean,
 
I have no reason to believe you are lying. I'm just as confused as you as to what is going on with these headers.
 
Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kris's Latest Charge

Jim,
 
Apart from the headers, do you believe I am lying to you when I say that I received that message from Brian as is, on the date on the header?
 
Why in the world would anyone forge a message like that?  What would be the point? It's pure Brian -- anyone who knew Brian will recognize the style and content instantly.
 
The really ironic thing is that I took Kris's side on the question of Kris moderating Brian and Duncan.  I urged Brian to calm down and temper his rhetoric.
 
I find Kris's behavior these days to be completely unfathomable.
 
Kris posted a challenging message to me in cia-drugs on this controversy, and is denying me the ability to reply.  His idea of a fair discussion is to tie both hands of his opponent behind his back.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rarey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: Kris's Latest Charge

 
Yes, I have copies of Brian's private E-mails to me including the full headers. However, I don't know anything about analyzing headers for authenticity.
 
JR
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: Kris's Latest Charge

Did you keep copies of the private email Brian sent you, including the full headers?
 
More importantly, do you believe that the message currently at issue is a forgery?
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rarey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: Kris's Latest Charge

Well, I never received them. Brian never cc'd anyone on the private E-mails he sent me.
 
JR
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: Kris's Latest Charge

Jim,
 
You were cc'd on all five.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rarey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: Kris's Latest Charge

Was I supposed to have been copied on any of them?
 
JR
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: Kris's Latest Charge

A bit more background on this issue:
 
I received five private messages from Brian on April 15, 2003.  All were backed up several times on different dates on non-rewritable CDs, and all include the full header information.  All the messages reinforce one another in terms of topic and theme.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rarey
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: Kris's Latest Charge

Sean,
 
I archived my E-mails from Brian and I never received that one or any E-mail from him dated 4-15-03.
 
Jim
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 11:11 PM
Subject: Kris's Latest Charge

Jim,
 
I just searched in my archives and found the attached message from Brian.
 
Is it your understanding that Kris Millegan is describing this message as a forgery?
 
I notice that Brian cc'd the same message to you: did you receive it?
 
Thanks
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Kris Millegan's Recent False Charges in CTRL

-Caveat Lector-
In a message dated 9/29/03 11:49:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


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Millegan,

 

I had thorough discussions with both Mark Urban and Jim Rarey about the forgery issue.  Certainly neither of them accused me of posting forgeries.  Some regular members of cia-drugs expressed strong doubts to me about your judgment in weirdly fastening on the forgery and sock puppet charges.



McFraud,  I have also had "discussions" with these two gentleman AND neither of them received the email supposedly cc'd to them. Did any of your discussion show that they had receved the forged email?  

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