> wvdial and kppp both died as soon as  
> they tried to start up ppp

Yes I had exactly that problem.  I don't remember exactly how I fixed
it, except that there was an entry in a text configuration file that had
to be changed (duh!).  The file /etc/ppp/options seems to be a good
place to start.  For some reason the file /etc/ppp/ppp-up wasn't in my
path so I had to list the full path in the chat script.  

Good luck!   

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:27:00 -0500, "Robert Citek"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:20 PM, Erich Friesen wrote:
> > Yes, I used to do that quite often.  Used an internal ISA modem,
> > configure with isapnp and wvdail is what I used for dial up. Started
> > doing this with SuSE 5.3 or so up through SuSE 8.1.
> 
> On Saturday, Jerry, Ed, and I were at ByteWorks working on this.   
> There were actually a few confounding issues which did not allow a  
> successful PPP connection:
> 
> KPPP: turned out to be a permissions issue.  Although the default  
> user was in group dialout, kppp was set to run in group dip(30).  So,  
> we added the default user to grop dip and kppp worked again.  In  
> retrospect an error message with KDE would have been nice.
> 
> ISP: the city's ISP is doing something weird.  While we were able to  
> connect using minicom, wvdial, and kppp, we never were able to  
> establish a PPP connection.  wvdial and kppp both died as soon as  
> they tried to start up ppp.   Whatever the city is doing for  
> establishing a PPP connection is non-obvious and something we still  
> haven't figured out.
> 
> modem: the modem didn't have a built-in speaker, or at least one that  
> was sufficiently loud.  So, we couldn't tell that the modem had  
> failed while we were trouble-shooting the process, specifically, the  
> modem wouldn't go off-hook.  This made dialing-out very difficult.
> 
> Upshot:
> 
> - use a more reliable ISP, at least for troubleshooting and  
> configuring the modems.
> - somehow connect the modem to an audible speaker.  Probably the  
> easiest is to use an old phone and a line splitter.
> 
> We also discovered the website with instructions for how to connect  
> to the city's ISP using Windows or OS X:
> 
> http://www.more.net/technical/unsupported/index.html
> 
> Thanks go to Ed and Jerry for helping out.  I sure did learn a lot.
> 
> Regards,
> - Robert
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