Am 18.04.2015 20:56, schrieb Steven Fosdick:
> On 17 April 2015 at 10:30, Michael Below <be...@judiz.de> wrote:
>
>> Maybe you should import only the RAW into darktable? There is an option for
>> that in the importer.
>>
>> As I understand it, RAW+jpg is meant so that you have a jpg right away (for
>> quick social media sharing or something like that) and a RAW to edit later,
>> right?
>>
>
> That's one way to use it.
>
> Another way to use it is to look at the SooC JPEG and see if it is good
> enough.  If it is, then use it, if not then go back to the RAW file and set
> about improving it.  As a workflow this works if you are not a
> perfectionist and most of the time are happy with the SooC JPEG.

Just to give another use case, the raw preview in nautilus is so slow 
for canon 5d2 and 50d .cr2s (it's much faster for sony rx100m2) that I 
don't use it (it blocks my processor forever for a couple of previews) 
and keep the jpgs as quick reference.

> Yes, I take the point that it is possible to create the JPEG from the RAW
> but it takes time to do that.  Simply exporting the RAWs as JPEGs does not
> produce images which are as pleasing, in most cases, as the SooC JPEGs.

 From my experience, sometimes the in-camera processing is doing a 
pretty decent job that is hard to copy in $RAWCONVERTER, not even by 
investing a lot of time. IIRC this was several times on the DT mailing 
list and other photographers experience the same with LR and other 
commercial tools. For me personally, it is hard to come close to the 
noise reduction and detail preservation that the conversion within my 
Canon 5D2 does. For this camera and according to my standards, profiled 
denoise is unusable since it overshoots and delivers a cheap compact 
camera like result (without noise, but without details as well, comic 
book style). The denoise - non local means works much better, but the 
details preservation is far from what the camera does. I Don't doubt 
that similar results are possible (and for some situations I get to them 
or other parameters are more important than denoise + details 
preservation), but these take a lot of time, as you told. I wonder what 
the camera actually does to get to the result.

> People have different amounts of time they are prepared to invest in each
> picture depending on the nature of the pictures and where they are going
> to.  It is helpful to have a single tool that can deal with variations in
> workflow.

I totally agree.

Best regards

Chris



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