@Dev

Please please please write a blogpost. I'm having a hard time following
myself! It would be a really valuable resource.  We can also make teh wiki
a bit more robust..

http://datameet.org/wiki/indiangeospatialdata

Nisha

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Dipal Thakker <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello Group, Was very keen to continue this discussion.
> To continue from my last point (in my last msg), the key reason I am
> seeking base-map / boundary data is that I would like to build an
> infographic portal for census and other primary data sets. I gave a shot
> but did not reach too far.. and keen to collaborate with like minded ppl to
> take my project further.
>
> Best,
> Dipal
>
> *| Dipal Thakker*
>
>
> On 19 April 2015 at 15:50, Dipal Thakker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> @Pradeep thanks for flagging
>>
>> @All - Just bought to my attention that my msg from Thursday last week
>> which was intended for the group was only sent to one member.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> @Mahroof - thats very true. But the sad part is that BISAG has formal /
>> informal tie-ups with commercial entities (so I have heard)
>>
>> @Sharad - many thanks, will have a look at the information right away.
>> Will this match to Census 2011 data?
>>
>> @Pradeep - many thanks for your offer to help with RTI - ideally i need
>> data for India (which I am sure most of us here are after). But for
>> starters, I am focusing on western region so data for Guj, Raj, Mah, and MP
>> will be great.
>>
>> All - just a thought – It will be great if DM members could collaborate
>> to build an open source data platform, as I am sure there is a lot of data
>> around.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Which Brings me to my last point..  I am currently trying to build a
>> retail analytics platform and as part of my exercise I am also building a
>> census infographic tool for which I need two key components..
>> - primary census data which can be extrapolated (thisI have and is now
>> available for free) and
>> - relevant and relateable boundary / admin line data (not available).
>>
>> I have done some very basic work using census raw data layered on OSM
>> using leaflet and driven by PHP / Posgresql
>>
>> Keen to talk with like minded people here.. so please feel free to reach
>> out.
>>
>> KR,
>> Dipal
>>
>> *| Dipal Thakker*
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 April 2015 at 09:12, Pradeep Bhatt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Just noticed that you had sent this mail to me and not to the group. You
>>> might want to send it to the group.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pradeep
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Dipal Thakker <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Mahroof - thats very true. But the sad part is that BISAG has formal /
>>>> informal tie-ups with commercial entities (so I have heard)
>>>>
>>>> @Sharad - many thanks, will have a look at the information right away.
>>>> Will this match to Census 2011 data?
>>>>
>>>> @Pradeep - many thanks for your offer to help with RTI - ideally i need
>>>> data for India (which I am sure most of us here are after). But for
>>>> starters, I am focusing on western region so data for Guj, Raj, Mah, and MP
>>>> will be great.
>>>>
>>>> All - just a thought – It will be great if DM members could collaborate
>>>> to build an open source data platform, as I am sure there is a lot of data
>>>> around.
>>>>
>>>> KR,
>>>> Dipal
>>>>
>>>> *| Dipal Thakker*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 April 2015 at 12:00, Pradeep Bhatt <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dipal,
>>>>>
>>>>> I can use RTI to get data from BISAG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you let me know you need data exactly for which region?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Pradeep
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Dipal Thakker <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shashank, Shashank, and DM comrades
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great if someone can point me to the most complete / recent version
>>>>>> of IND_adm3 data. I am working on a census tool and I have done some work
>>>>>> for few states, but stuck without detailed boundary data-sets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I visited BISAG, a nodal agency in Gujarat which I am told has the
>>>>>> most detailed GIS data sets for Gujarat and most parts of India, but was
>>>>>> booted out on my request to access, lease, license, or rent data set.. 
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> such a shame that on one hand PM/govt is talking about open data and on
>>>>>> other there is a thick bureaucratic red tape.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *| Dipal Thakker*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 April 2015 at 10:41, "Sharad Lele [शरच्चंद्र लेले]" <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Dear Shashank:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the bottom line of the thread below was the the IND_adm3
>>>>>>> layer is a reasonably good layer for tehsil boundaries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding digitizing village boundaries: seems like we are all
>>>>>>> condemned to reinvent the wheel because GoI/Planning Commission/ISRO are
>>>>>>> not willing to share what they have already done (and in many cases 10
>>>>>>> times over).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For which state are you trying to create a village boundary layer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sharad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14-Apr-15 10:33 AM, Shashank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bumping this up, because I don't think this issue has been resolved
>>>>>>> yet. I now have 4 different versions of Indian administrative 
>>>>>>> boundaries,
>>>>>>> and my current nightmare is getting protected area boundaries to line up
>>>>>>> with them accurately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the best *open* version of Indian administrative boundaries,
>>>>>>> down to the Tehsil/Block level, and is there a place from where it is
>>>>>>> easily available?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (I'm not even going to ask for village-level data, because among
>>>>>>> other things, what we're doing now is digitising revenue village maps
>>>>>>> because the MRD itself doesn't have digitised village level data...yet.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 2:02:37 PM UTC+5:30, D Thakker
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric, in my research / experience i have found that Sub-district,
>>>>>>>> Mandal, Taluka, Tehsil means same and are division of District when it
>>>>>>>> comes to Census.
>>>>>>>> But for Revenue dept boundaries are drawn and managed by district
>>>>>>>> administrative bodies who report to state administration only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So for census - District and Sub-district are well defined
>>>>>>>> boundaries, and I understand from 2011 Census India has bought a 
>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>> numbering system which should make future data reconciliation easier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But for land revenue depaetment - it really depends on the local
>>>>>>>> administrative reach and function, and is managed and controlled by 
>>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>>> admin bodies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For eg. Surat has some discrepancy when it comes to Revenue and
>>>>>>>> Census boundaries. This was something I came across and even local 
>>>>>>>> admin
>>>>>>>> bodies in Surat were not aware
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 7, 2014 at 8:15:45 PM UTC+5:30, Eric Dodge
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is very interesting Sharad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I've been looking for maps of what I've been calling
>>>>>>>>> administrative blocks, that is, the units overseen by block 
>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>> officers. MGNREGA data is aggregated at this level and I've been 
>>>>>>>>> hoping to
>>>>>>>>> use the data to do some mapping exercises.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  The census sub-districts are called differently across states
>>>>>>>>> (tahsil, taluk, mandal, etc). You can see the list here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://censusindia.gov.in/Tables_Published/Admin_Units/Admin_links/subdistrict_nomeclature.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I know that in all the states where census sub-districts are
>>>>>>>>> called taluk, mandal, or CD block (with the exception of TN), the 
>>>>>>>>> census
>>>>>>>>> sub-district is identical to the administrative block.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I've already completed a mapping exercise for Bihar using the
>>>>>>>>> census sub-district map and the data matched up pretty well. If the
>>>>>>>>> IND_adm3 data is indeed the administrative blocks then I could do a 
>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>> exercise with Madhya Pradesh. I'll take a look to see if the data 
>>>>>>>>> lines up
>>>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Has anybody dug into this issue any deeper? I've heard that
>>>>>>>>> tehsil comes from the revenue side whereas taluk, mandal, etc comes 
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> the administrative side but that doesn't explain why the census uses
>>>>>>>>> different sub-district units across states.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Best,
>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Sharad Lele <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If I am right, then Justin may want to rename his layer as
>>>>>>>>>> CDBlocks_2001...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sharad
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:28:17 PM UTC+5:30, Sharad Lele
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I think I have the explanation for why I am seeing a good match
>>>>>>>>>>> and you are not:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The problem lies in defining what is the 'sub-district' unit (in
>>>>>>>>>>> IND_adm3). Administratively speaking, it is tehsil, below which 
>>>>>>>>>>> lies CD
>>>>>>>>>>> block. Unfortunately, census gives information by CD block. So 
>>>>>>>>>>> there are
>>>>>>>>>>> more 'sub-district' units in Census than tehsils in the country. 
>>>>>>>>>>> GDAM seems
>>>>>>>>>>> to have followed the tehsil concept.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To check: Karnataka is one state in which tehsil and CD block
>>>>>>>>>>> are one and the same. That is why the sub-district layer IND_adm3 
>>>>>>>>>>> matches
>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly for Karnataka, but not for other states. There might be 
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> other states where this holds good, I don't know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, so if one really wants CD block level boundaries, we
>>>>>>>>>>> have to look at Justin, I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But the GDAM boundaries are not 'wrong'.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sharad
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 07-Aug-14 9:48 AM, Devdatta Tengshe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  In Continuation of my previous email, here is a CSV file which
>>>>>>>>>>> shows just how bad the GDAM dataset is.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>  Devdatta
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Devdatta Tengshe <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sharad,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just download the GDAM data again, to confirm what you have
>>>>>>>>>>>> said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to have to disagree with you about the quality of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> IND_adm3 data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Acoording to the 2001 Census, there are 5454 Sub Districts in
>>>>>>>>>>>> India <http://www.socialjustice.nic.in/pdf/tab11.pdf>. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> GDAM dataset has just 2299 features.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So clearly these taluk features do not correspond to the 2001
>>>>>>>>>>>> Census. I cross checked for some areas I have ground knowledge of, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> can say that this dataset is not from any specific era. Some 
>>>>>>>>>>>> tehsils in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> file were created post 2001, while others created in the 90's were 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion the GDAM data is pretty much unusable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Devdatta
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Sharad Lele <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have downloaded and checked the GADM boundaries (my version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 2011). The taluka boundary layer probably holds good today, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> becuase few
>>>>>>>>>>>>> talukas get split. Districts get split regularly (every so many 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> years) so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the district boundary layer in this GADM set is quite of date 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (may apply to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2001 or so). The spatial registration (positional accuracy is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~1km, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spatial detail is of course not as good as the boundaries given 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a Survey
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of India 50k topo, but then that is an unfair standard, so by a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> generalized standard, the quality is okay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 4, 2014 7:20:38 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr Thakkar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please also look at another post (more than one) on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group  about Taluk Shapefiles by Justin Meyers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far as I know GADM is the source that has Taluk files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure about its completeness and accuracy as on today
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gadm.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 4, 2014 6:23:07 PM UTC+5:30, D Thakker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  thanks Dilip for your hardwork.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been on a lookout for all taluka / tehsil shape file,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so how do I be in a loop as I am very keen to see the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository mail /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 4, 2014 9:50:26 AM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharad,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am working on some things will revert in about a week or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may be more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thejesh,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Go ahead,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually there was one more source a Low Resolution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (vertices) District map by VDS technologies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have it as Polylines in Autocad. I seem to have lost the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has then please share it. (it does not seem to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on their site now)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:32:43 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually its not a bad idea to list it on the wiki. Let me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know i will create an account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://thejeshgn.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2014 10:15 PM, "Sharad Lele" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Dilip and others:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been following this thread with interest, but to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be honest am a bit lost now. Can someone post a summary of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which maps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned so far have what features (which coverage, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pertaining to which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year, what attributes (such as census codes), etc.)? Would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be most helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 1, 2014 9:03:58 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an old post.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However this is the appropriate place to add an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional source.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had downloaded the set from Grid Geneva many years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original complete source was named as GNV197 which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 24 MB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Titled as "HUMAN POPULATION AND ADMINISTRATIVE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BOUNDARIES DATABASE FOR ASIA"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am attaching the South Central Asia E00 file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That set contains The disputed areas under the country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name IN1 and IN2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This dataset can not be easily found at present on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GRID Geneva site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grid.unep.ch/index.php?lang=en in the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may be it is still there somewhere with some other name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For copyright check the metadata file which is here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://geonetwork.grid.unep.ch/geonetwork/srv/en/iso19139.xml?id=835
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rgds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dilip Damle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 9:52:57 AM UTC+5:30,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karthik Shashidhar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the shapefiles for India that I have downloaded do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not show PoK and Aksai Chin as part of India. Does anyone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here have access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to shapefiles that include these territories? Basically 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking to publish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (online) some maps, so want to make sure that it's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accurate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  (I looked through the group archives, and all sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned there do not show these regions as part of India)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karthik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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