----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail filtering for IMail lists...
> > >Is there any way to get JunkMail to look at individual user's > ><username>.junkmail action file with Pro? > > That's the first place that it looks. > > Note that the domain that is used depends on IMail's whim -- it seems that > if the E-mail is sent directly to a user, IMail will use the official name > of the domain (not a domain alias), but if the E-mail is sent to an alias, > IMail will use whatever domain that the sender used. > > So if you have "mail.example.com" as the official name and "example.com" as > the alias (does *anyone* send mail to "@mail.example.com" anymore?), then > E-mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would need a > \IMail\Declude\mail.example.com\username.JunkMail file for Declude to use > the per-user settings. If I'm looking at it correctly, it's set correctly. The actual declude log file entry is at the end of this message (I guess none of you will spam me, right? ;-) The list name is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The official host name is "lms.kent.edu". It looks from the log file as if it is looking for an \imail\declude\lms.kent.edu\testlist.junkmail file. But I don't have specific files for each list name...just user names. It then uses the $default$.junkmail file and only WARNs. I'm a member of the list and it never checks \imail\declude\lms.kent.edu\tryan.junkmail because my SPAMCOP and WEIGHT10 actions both will bounce it. > > > From the declude log, it looks as > >though it's only checking $default$.junkmail and *trying* to find a > ><listname>.junkmail file which does not exist. > > listname? > > If the E-mail is sent to listname@, then Declude will look for the > listname.JunkMail file. > > > I thought mabye turning on > >outgoing actions would work since the list server is technically > >redistributing the messages, but that does not work. > > No, that will only apply if the E-mail address that the E-mail is being > sent to is remote (IE one that IMail doesn't handle, but instead passes off > to another server to handle). > -Scott OK...so this is getting to my ultimate question. If when the message comes in (as described above), it only checks for \imail\declude\lms.kent.edu\testlist.junkmail and \imail\declude\$default$.junkmail...AND it won't check on outgoing mail unless the recipient is remote...THEN does this mean there's no way mail to a list will ever be checked against the list member's \imail\declude\lms.kent.edu\userid.junkmail file? Thanks! --Todd. As promised, here's the log file (debug level) entry for a test message delivery: 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Setting DNS server to IMail's 131.123.1.1. 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Declude JunkMail Pro Version Registered 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Start 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Locked d:\imail\spool\Q3db9086b014aedca.SMD. 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Getting message envelope 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Setting altaddr 0 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]. 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Starting locality check 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca CL Opening HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\Ipswitch\IMail\Domains 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca [EMAIL PROTECTED] [0] is local domain1 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca [EMAIL PROTECTED] [0] is local main domain 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Done getting message envelope 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Getting headers 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Done getting envelope and headers 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Ver=30 verflag=0 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca About to run spam tests 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Doing fromfile 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Doing fromfile 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Going through datafile 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca 216.136.131.188] by lms.kent.edu (SMTPD32-7.10) id ADB986B014A; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:41:45 -0400 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Handling Received: header 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Setting remote IP address to 216.136.131.188 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca 188.131.136.216.in-addr.arpa 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Got it: web11206.mail.yahoo.com.. 06/24/2002 11:41:45 Q3db9086b014aedca Hop 0: Checking IP Address 216.136.131.188. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca 131.123.20.67] by web11206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:41:44 PDT 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Handling Received: header 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Skipping received line (hop 1) 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Last line of headers: Content-Type: text/plain; char 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.in.dnsbl.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.dsn.rfc-ignorant.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.dsn.rfc-ignorant.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:46 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.abuse.rfc-ignorant.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca yahoo.com.abuse.rfc-ignorant.org IS listed in NOABUSE. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.abuse.rfc-ignorant.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca yahoo.com.abuse.rfc-ignorant.org IS listed in NOABUSESUB. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing RHSBL at yahoo.com.postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org [0]. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Doing envfrom type test on yahoo.com. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Looking up MX/A record for yahoo.com at 131.123.1.1. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Done with MX/A record 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Looking up MX/A record for yahoo.com at 131.123.1.1. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Done with MX/A record 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Doing envfrom type test on yahoo.com. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Looking up MX/A record for yahoo.com at 131.123.1.1. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Done with MX/A record 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Looking up MX/A record for yahoo.com at 131.123.1.1. 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca Done with MX/A record 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca External program started: d:\imail\declude\sniffer\SNFdemo.exe 00000000 d:\imail\spool\D3db9086b014aedca.SMD 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca External program reports exit code of 0 06/24/2002 11:41:47 Q3db9086b014aedca External program started: d:\imail\declude\sniffer\SNFdemo.exe 00000000 d:\imail\spool\D3db9086b014aedca.SMD 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca External program reports exit code of 0 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca SPAMCOP:9 NOABUSE:3 . Total weight = 12 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 kenyon.edu 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 devrycols.edu 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 educause.edu 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 microsoft.com 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 @oplin.lib.oh.us 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 oclc.org 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 steltor.com 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 lockergnome.com 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 meiway.com 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 @LISTSERV.RICE.EDU 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 @bb4.com 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 @list.ipswitch.com 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 ncat.edu 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 ohiolink.edu 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 LISTSERV.CLASSROOM.COM 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 icibinding.com 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Testing whitelist 1 ala.org 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Looping... 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Opening HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\Ipswitch\IMail\Domains 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Domain name = lms.kent.edu, User name = testlist. 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Using [incoming] CFG file d:\imail\Declude\$default$.junkmail. 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca XXXX................................X...XX...................... 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Test #0 [WEIGHT10SUB weight=10] triggered; action = 0 [Weight of 12 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Test #1 [WEIGHT10 weight=10] triggered; action = 4 [Weight of 12 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 12 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 12 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10. 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Test #2 [WEIGHT5SUB weight=5] triggered; action = 0 [Weight of 12 reaches or exceeds the limit of 5.] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Test #3 [WEIGHT5 weight=5] triggered; action = 4 [Weight of 12 reaches or exceeds the limit of 5.] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Msg failed WEIGHT5 (Weight of 12 reaches or exceeds the limit of 5.). 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT5: Weight of 12 reaches or exceeds the limit of 5. 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Test #36 [SPAMCOP weight=9] triggered; action = 4 [Requested by rsp set off.] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Msg failed SPAMCOP (Requested by rsp set off.). 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Requested by rsp set off. 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Test #40 [NOABUSE weight=3] triggered; action = 4 [Not supporting abuse@domain] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Msg failed NOABUSE (Not supporting abuse@domain). 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting abuse@domain 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Test #41 [NOABUSESUB weight=0] triggered; action = 0 [Not supporting abuse@domain] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Subject: testing spamcop on testlist 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Looping... 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Done Looping 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca X-Note: This E-mail was scanned for junkmail. (Msg File: D3db9086b014aedca.SMD) 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca AlterMessage 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Set process priority back to 32. 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Adding warning 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Final action=0. 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca d:\imail\spool\Q3db9086b014aedca.SMD 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Unlocked d:\imail\spool\Q3db9086b014aedca.SMD. 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Passing to SMTP3: d:\imail\smtp32.exe "d:\imail\spool\Q3db9086b014aedca.SMD". 06/24/2002 11:41:48 Q3db9086b014aedca Total Time: 891ms --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
