But just because your Cisco "tech" guy doesn't know anything about the
application-level  effects  of  the  Cisco fixup features doesn't mean
there's  anything  wrong  or  "unreal" about the PIX as a firewall, as
long  as  you eliminate the fixup problem. If neither you nor the tech
thought  or  wondered  about  turning  off  fixup,  which is very well
documented,  that's  no  fault  of  the  product  itself (though I can
understand  the  desire  for vengeance at a vendor rep who didn't know
his stuff).

The PIX is a highly resilient enterprise firewall. Like other products
that  dabble  in  application  proxying  (WatchGuard, etc.), its proxy
functions are not as well thought out.

-Sandy


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Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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