On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Roger Schildmeijer > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Roger Schildmeijer >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 7/27/11 4:08 PM, Roger Schildmeijer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 7/27/11 3:31 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's just a matter to send a mail with the ICLA attached (I guess it >>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>> be a scan or a picture of the ICLA with the written signature). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is not about how much time it takes to scan an ICLA and send it :). >>>>>>>> He was not in the initial list of committers and as the [VOTE] has >>>>>>>> been accepted and closed and the podling has started I am afraid that >>>>>>>> he should gain credits to become a committer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not sure I follow why he should? (I have no doubt in Michele and if he >>>>>>> continues to support deft the way he is currently doing he will probably >>>>>>> become a committer one day.) >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that what Mohammad thinks is that it's not because you have >>>>>> provided >>>>>> a patch once before the project has been accepted at Apache that you >>>>>> should >>>>>> be granted commit access. >>>>>> >>>>>> The initial members of the project, listed in the proposal, are natural >>>>>> committers. Any other should be voted by the PPMC (and approuved by the >>>>>> IPMC), thus must gain access through merit. This is true for new >>>>>> contributors, but also for those who contributed before. >>>>>> >>>>>> The rational for this rule is that if you didn't include them in the >>>>>> proposal, then they haven't been 'committed' enough to the project. >>>>>> >>>>>> See http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Authorize+Committers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, I think that what is important here is to found the PPMC, as they >>>>>> will rule the project when it will get out of incubator. You are the guy >>>>>> who >>>>>> make this project successful - or not :-) -, and it's also a part of the >>>>>> process. >>>>> >>>>> That is *exactly* what I mean, I apologize if I was not clear enough :). >>>> >>>> np >>>> . >>>>> >>>>> I already took the steps to activate the PPMC :). >>>> >>>> Nice initiative. :-) >>> >>> Yes, but I still don't see any replies, who are the moderator(s) of >>> the deft-private@ ? I gave it a test and I am not one of them. >> >> According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3760 Niklas and >> Emmanuel should me moderators. >> I wasn't added because my apache accounts wasn't ready (in fact, it's not >> ready as we speak.. :/ ) >> >> (Dumb question: ) you don't subscribe to the private ml? > > Yes you do, and the moderator is responsible for accepting the > subscriptions from the right people, that is in our case mentors and > initial committers of the podling. But for later successfully voted > and accepted Committers they still need to show merits to be voted as > PPMC members as well. > > It is *very* important to indicate that it is not about ranks, in > other words a Committer is not in lower rank than a PPMC member, that > is *not* correct by any mean. It is all about showing merits, the will > of taking more responsibility and being committed to the community of > the project and to ASF in general and also understanding how things > are going. > Thanks for the clarification. I'll subscribe right away!
>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>> Emmanuel Lécharny >>>>>> www.iktek.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks >>>>> - Mohammad Nour >>>>> Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User >>>>> Guide) >>>>> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html >>>>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >>>>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com >>>>> ---- >>>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >>>>> - Albert Einstein >>>>> >>>>> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a >>>>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less >>>>> than your best." >>>>> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship >>>>> >>>>> "Stay hungry, stay foolish." >>>>> - Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks >>> - Mohammad Nour >>> Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) >>> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html >>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com >>> ---- >>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >>> - Albert Einstein >>> >>> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a >>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less >>> than your best." >>> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship >>> >>> "Stay hungry, stay foolish." >>> - Steve Jobs >> >> > > > > -- > Thanks > - Mohammad Nour > Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com > ---- > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" > - Albert Einstein > > "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a > professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less > than your best." > - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship > > "Stay hungry, stay foolish." > - Steve Jobs
