On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Roger Schildmeijer
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 7/27/11 4:08 PM, Roger Schildmeijer wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny<[email protected]>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7/27/11 3:31 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's just a matter to send a mail with the ICLA attached (I guess it
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> be a scan or a picture of the ICLA with the written signature).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is not about how much time it takes to scan an ICLA and send it :).
>>>>>> He was not in the initial list of committers and as the [VOTE] has
>>>>>> been accepted and closed and the podling has started I am afraid that
>>>>>> he should gain credits to become a committer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not sure I follow why he should? (I have no doubt in Michele and if he
>>>>> continues to support deft the way he is currently doing he will probably
>>>>> become a committer one day.)
>>>> 
>>>> I think that what Mohammad thinks is that it's not because you have 
>>>> provided
>>>> a patch once before the project has been accepted at Apache that you should
>>>> be granted commit access.
>>>> 
>>>> The initial members of the project, listed in the proposal, are natural
>>>> committers. Any other should be voted by the PPMC (and approuved by the
>>>> IPMC), thus must gain access through merit. This is true for new
>>>> contributors, but also for those who contributed before.
>>>> 
>>>> The rational for this rule is that if you didn't include them in the
>>>> proposal, then they haven't been 'committed' enough to the project.
>>>> 
>>>> See http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Authorize+Committers.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, I think that what is important here is to found the PPMC, as they
>>>> will rule the project when it will get out of incubator. You are the guy 
>>>> who
>>>> make this project successful - or not :-) -, and it's also a part of the
>>>> process.
>>> 
>>> That is *exactly* what I mean, I apologize if I was not clear enough :).
>> 
>> np
>> .
>>> 
>>> I already took the steps to activate the PPMC :).
>> 
>> Nice initiative. :-)
> 
> Yes, but I still don't see any replies, who are the moderator(s) of
> the deft-private@ ? I gave it a test and I am not one of them.

According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3760 Niklas and 
Emmanuel should me moderators.
I wasn't added because my apache accounts wasn't ready (in fact, it's not ready 
as we speak.. :/ )

(Dumb question: ) you don't subscribe to the private ml?

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Cordialement,
>>>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>>>> www.iktek.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> - Mohammad Nour
>>>   Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
>>>   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
>>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
>>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
>>> ----
>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>>> - Albert Einstein
>>> 
>>> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
>>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
>>> than your best."
>>> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
>>> 
>>> "Stay hungry, stay foolish."
>>> - Steve Jobs
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
>   Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
>   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
> 
> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
> than your best."
> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
> 
> "Stay hungry, stay foolish."
> - Steve Jobs

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