On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> On 7/27/11 3:31 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Roger Schildmeijer
>>> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny<[email protected]>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/27/11 1:57 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    All listed initial committers MUST file an ICLA to get a write
>>>>>>> access to the SVN repo. thats true, and I will follow up with other
>>>>>>> mentors to see how it is going.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope that all of the initial committer shave already submitted their
>>>>>> ICLA.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *But*, current people who have this kind of access they can start
>>>>>>> working on the re-org and they *should* not be blocked by the rest. At
>>>>>>> least this is what I believe in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who has commit access atm (mentors excluded) ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would add another question, that is, who still need to file his/her
>>>>> ICLA ?
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Petersson (initial committer) is on vacation, back next week.
>>>> + 2 external contributors prior to apache incubation (I've contacted
>>>> them..no reply yet)
>>>> 
>>>> I've been talking to Julien Vermillard and Emmanuel Lecharny regarding
>>>> the two external contributors.
>>>> We think it would be enough if they attached their patch (on the migrated
>>>> JIRA issues) + checked the "Grant license to ASF for inclusion in ASF works
>>>> (as per the Apache License §5)" checkbox.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone disagree?
>>> 
>>> I believe that would be OK.
>> 
>> Michele Zuccala just mailed to the list. He said he can provide an ICLA,
>> which would be easier than adding all his patches to a JIRA with the
>> checkbox checked.
>> 
>> It's just a matter to send a mail with the ICLA attached (I guess it should
>> be a scan or a picture of the ICLA with the written signature).
> 
> It is not about how much time it takes to scan an ICLA and send it :).
> He was not in the initial list of committers and as the [VOTE] has
> been accepted and closed and the podling has started I am afraid that
> he should gain credits to become a committer.

Not sure I follow why he should? (I have no doubt in Michele and if he 
continues to support deft the way he is currently doing he will probably become 
a committer one day.)

> I know it might sound weird a little at the beginning, but it is not
> only about committing code, it is more about understanding the rules
> and way of Apache of doing OSS and hence comes these set of rules. And
> I have to point that I am not talking about Michele Zuccala in
> particular, I am talking in general.
> 
> So, IMO we should go the way of that they re-attach their patches with
> the new migrated JIRA(s) and if they show the same interest and
> commitment as they have shown before they will get committer rights
> indeed,

Absolutely, I totally agree. People spending time and contributing to the 
project should eventually get committers right.

> as long as all of this is managed by the rules defined and
> managed by the Deft PPMC.

The Deft PPM is currently not formed though.

> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Cordialement,
>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>> www.iktek.com
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> - Mohammad Nour
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>   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
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