On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Roger Schildmeijer <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Roger Schildmeijer >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 7/27/11 4:08 PM, Roger Schildmeijer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny<[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7/27/11 3:31 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's just a matter to send a mail with the ICLA attached (I guess it >>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>> be a scan or a picture of the ICLA with the written signature). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is not about how much time it takes to scan an ICLA and send it :). >>>>>>> He was not in the initial list of committers and as the [VOTE] has >>>>>>> been accepted and closed and the podling has started I am afraid that >>>>>>> he should gain credits to become a committer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure I follow why he should? (I have no doubt in Michele and if he >>>>>> continues to support deft the way he is currently doing he will probably >>>>>> become a committer one day.) >>>>> >>>>> I think that what Mohammad thinks is that it's not because you have >>>>> provided >>>>> a patch once before the project has been accepted at Apache that you >>>>> should >>>>> be granted commit access. >>>>> >>>>> The initial members of the project, listed in the proposal, are natural >>>>> committers. Any other should be voted by the PPMC (and approuved by the >>>>> IPMC), thus must gain access through merit. This is true for new >>>>> contributors, but also for those who contributed before. >>>>> >>>>> The rational for this rule is that if you didn't include them in the >>>>> proposal, then they haven't been 'committed' enough to the project. >>>>> >>>>> See http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Authorize+Committers. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, I think that what is important here is to found the PPMC, as they >>>>> will rule the project when it will get out of incubator. You are the guy >>>>> who >>>>> make this project successful - or not :-) -, and it's also a part of the >>>>> process. >>>> >>>> That is *exactly* what I mean, I apologize if I was not clear enough :). >>> >>> np >>> . >>>> >>>> I already took the steps to activate the PPMC :). >>> >>> Nice initiative. :-) >> >> Yes, but I still don't see any replies, who are the moderator(s) of >> the deft-private@ ? I gave it a test and I am not one of them. > > According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3760 Niklas and > Emmanuel should me moderators. > I wasn't added because my apache accounts wasn't ready (in fact, it's not > ready as we speak.. :/ ) > > (Dumb question: ) you don't subscribe to the private ml?
Yes you do, and the moderator is responsible for accepting the subscriptions from the right people, that is in our case mentors and initial committers of the podling. But for later successfully voted and accepted Committers they still need to show merits to be voted as PPMC members as well. It is *very* important to indicate that it is not about ranks, in other words a Committer is not in lower rank than a PPMC member, that is *not* correct by any mean. It is all about showing merits, the will of taking more responsibility and being committed to the community of the project and to ASF in general and also understanding how things are going. > >> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Cordialement, >>>>> Emmanuel Lécharny >>>>> www.iktek.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thanks >>>> - Mohammad Nour >>>> Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) >>>> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html >>>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >>>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com >>>> ---- >>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >>>> - Albert Einstein >>>> >>>> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a >>>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less >>>> than your best." >>>> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship >>>> >>>> "Stay hungry, stay foolish." >>>> - Steve Jobs >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks >> - Mohammad Nour >> Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) >> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html >> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com >> ---- >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >> - Albert Einstein >> >> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a >> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less >> than your best." >> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship >> >> "Stay hungry, stay foolish." >> - Steve Jobs > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less than your best." - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship "Stay hungry, stay foolish." - Steve Jobs
