> I know you all are having problems with Delphi 2005, but this charge into
>.NET only seems to be taking hold in the US.

Not only the US, where I don't reside, but in other countries and probably
Europe. Not every company in every country is embracing .NET but a lot are.
You would have to have a massive amount of clients in Europe if you can
categorically state that Europe is slow in adapting this technology.

> It sucks. I can nearly see the form being painted it is 
>so slow.

If written in Delhi 2005 then maybe, if written with VS then no. The
commercial stuff I've written and also have seen is certainly not slow, in
fact quite fast. One of the leading film editing applications used in
Hollywood is written in C# using VS and it certainly is not slow. Actually
it was written by colleagues of mine. The other thing, you seem to be making
a very judgmental opinion of a technology you haven't even tried. Judge it
only if you try it.

> I don't want my clients accusing me of writing slow code!

A decent developer would make sure that they don't write slow code
irrespective of the programming language or platform.

>you would be all advised to recommend to your clients
>to take a more reticent and measured approach to the roll-out of .NET for
>application EXE's.

Why? Do you have any experience in .NET to support this argument? Have you
seen any .NET commercial stuff? Try it and then share your thoughts.

Look we know that Delphi is good, or was prior to D2005, however at times we
have to remove ourselves from this tunnel vision approach and admit that
another development environment has surfaced, is used by many more
developers than the total Delphi community, has a solid IDE and allows the
developers to be productive, rather than stuffing around with AV's before a
single line of code is written. Or going out to lunch waiting for "Hello
World" to compile.


Mike   


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Darren McBride
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2005 6:38 PM
To: 'Delphi-Talk Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Ignorance

I know you all are having problems with Delphi 2005, but this charge into
.NET only seems to be taking hold in the US. Over here in Europe we are a
bit more relaxed about adopting this SLOWER technology (and no-one can tell
me different), and it is only being adopted for tiny projects in any of my
clients at present. We are working with Delphi for the front-end of one of
our core products, and based on what I am seeing from .NET during our
consultancy projects, you would be all advised to recommed to your clients
to take a more reticent and measured approach to the roll-out of .NET for
application EXE's. It sucks. I can nearly see the form being painted it is
so slow.

.NET may be great for middle-tier or web apps, but I prefer to stick to
plain old Delphi for EXE's and will do for the next few years. I don't want
my clients accusing me of writing slow code!! Delphi 6 will be with me for
some time yet.

Good luck to those who change over though.

Darren 


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