I know you all are having problems with Delphi 2005, but this charge into
.NET only seems to be taking hold in the US. Over here in Europe we are a
bit more relaxed about adopting this SLOWER technology (and no-one can tell
me different), and it is only being adopted for tiny projects in any of my
clients at present. We are working with Delphi for the front-end of one of
our core products, and based on what I am seeing from .NET during our
consultancy projects, you would be all advised to recommed to your clients
to take a more reticent and measured approach to the roll-out of .NET for
application EXE's. It sucks. I can nearly see the form being painted it is
so slow.

.NET may be great for middle-tier or web apps, but I prefer to stick to
plain old Delphi for EXE's and will do for the next few years. I don't want
my clients accusing me of writing slow code!! Delphi 6 will be with me for
some time yet.

Good luck to those who change over though.

Darren 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Robert Meek
Sent: 22 May 2005 21:30
To: 'Delphi-Talk Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Ignorance

        You laid it out much better than I could.  I almost feel like a
traitor after working exclusively with Delphi for so long, and even though I
don't have to "depend" upon programming for my income, ( Thank God! <g> ), I
still feel the same frustration that you do when ever I fires Delphi up!
Now on the 3rd patch which I just put in, D2005 is no better than it was
before!  So they made it possible to use the Together support...I'm not in a
position to care about or need such things!  And though they also claim to
have speeded up the time it takes to go from design to code and back again,
I just ran the same test I did yesterday and it shaved a mere 2 secs off a
30 sec wait!  It did nothing for the loading time at all!
        I guess that for a long time I was living under the false impression
that ALL development tools suffered these kinds of problems, but I have been
completely amazed at how well VS runs, how strong it feels to work with, and
how fast it's response to commands time are.  And for those who don't know
it, programming can be a real pleasure when you aren't spending 90% of your
time dealing with IDE problems or just sitting on your hands watching the
hourglass do flip-flops!  
        Now that Chrome has made it possible for me to work in a better IDE
I'm going to take advantage of it.  Once I have all my older Win32 projects
put away I will most likely work with VS and Chrome exclusively, but I'm
also going to tackle C# just in case Chrome would get discontinued.  As for
the next iteration of Delphi...well they'll have to give it to me because
I'm no longer going to shell out that kind of money for such an inferior
product!  




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