On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Jared Zimmerman <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Looking good, some feedback…
>
>
>    - I think we should explore putting Watch and TOC together, or at
>    least associating them more closely.
>    - tipsy being to the left of, covers the other icons, I'm not sure if
>    we even need it, perhaps we could just rely on regular browser tooltips.
>    - I think that moving the TOC icon over should be animated, currently
>    the snap makes me look up, and is a bit distracting, the opposite of what
>    we want.
>    - I think we can kill the in-line TOC
>
>
That would be problematic. It would:

   - Make it impossible to get a sense of the article structure, at a
   glance. (eg. Enwiki's WP:Features article criteria
2b<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FA%3F>and any good FA
example.)
   - Change the process for getting to a subheading, from 1-move-and-click
   to 2-moves-and-2-clicks



>
>    - You can't currently scroll the TOC flyout
>    - Idea : highlight the current section in the TOC flyout
>    - when language list is not collapsable the left sidebar take a long
>    time to go away
>
>
Pau's proposal should solve that.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/New_Features#Better_Interlanguage_Links



>    - Placeholder text and user input is not aligned with each other in
>    search box
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> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:11 PM, May Tee-Galloway <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Added my comments on mediawiki.
>>
>> @Steven:
>>
>> No matter how much anyone doesn't like the globe including myself, it's a
>> huge part of Wikipedia's brand like you mentioned and shouldn't be wiped
>> out just for the sake of our personal preference. We should improve and not
>> trash it. Even if we trashed it and replaced with something else, we still
>> need SOMETHING people can relate to in regards to the project. Why do this
>> when people already relate the globe as Wikipedia. Wabi sabi wasabi man.
>>
>> mm
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Steven Walling 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Brandon Harris 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>         Hello!
>>>>
>>>>         I’ve been making a thing.  It’s actually got a code-name now!
>>>>  No more saying “Vector static header and navigation modification”.
>>>>
>>>>         LOTS of stuff going on with this update.  Notably:
>>>>
>>>>                 * Now asks for a username on load, so as to set things
>>>> up
>>>>                 * All pages are loaded from the API via JSON.  So it’s
>>>> not just the single static page.
>>>>                 * Got rid of pretty much every color.
>>>>                 * Article actions now dock in the header as you scroll.
>>>>                 * Table of Contents is now in the header from the
>>>> beginning
>>>>                 * The sidebar’s border goes away as you scroll past it
>>>>                 * Lots of links/actions do what you think they should.
>>>>  Most do not.
>>>>
>>>>         You can play with it here: http://unicorn.wmflabs.org/winter/
>>>>
>>>>         And read more about it here:
>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Winter
>>>>
>>>
>>> \o/
>>>
>>> The search prototype is great, and so are the improvements to the
>>> toolbar, particularly the relation between the TOC and the way the page
>>> actions slide out on scrolldown. I can't wait to see this as a beta
>>> feature.
>>>
>>> Some very small things:
>>>
>>> - I realize the icons are mostly placeholders, but the user contribs one
>>> is seriously confusing. It looks like there are two edit buttons when you
>>> scroll down.
>>> - I think the main edit button at the top should not be the quiet state
>>> from mw-ui. There is very little use of color on the skin now, so it's not
>>> like we're overwhelming things. We need to stop being afraid to make a few
>>> things LOUDER, particularly since in this prototype we're removing some
>>> color (like the Vector borders).
>>> - The line underneath the page title h1 is a different thickness (and
>>> color?) than the other borders. It's mildly annoying.
>>>
>>> And one bigger thing... The lack of the puzzle globe when scrolling. I
>>> know you hate the puzzle globe and so do many of our designers. But it's a
>>> key part of our identity, and it's also a really nice large target for
>>> "home" on desktop. Thinking of this as a potential future default look,
>>> splitting the logo and wordmark on every page like that is a serious
>>> change. We should have a larger conversation about it I think internally.
>>> Either we do think the globe is an important part of our brand or we don't.
>>> If we think it's so unimportant as to remove it on scroll, then that has
>>> pretty wide implications for our branding I think.
>>>
>>> Winter is coming, (I couldn't resist the Game of Thrones reference.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steven Walling,
>>> Product Manager
>>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>>>
>>
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