Nick, not sure I follow… Moving the TOC doesn't affect its structure…
Change the process for getting to a subheading, from 1-move-and-click to 2-moves-and-2-clicks I assume by 1-move you mean, scroll past the lead paragraph, then click on a section of the toc? in the prototype, you click (or we could make it hover) which would mean no moves, 1 click, so faster than the current state of things, also we get the bonus of it being available anywhere, not just at the top of an article. *Jared Zimmerman * \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia Foundation M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmerman<https://twitter.com/JaredZimmerman> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:45 PM, quiddity <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Jared Zimmerman < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Looking good, some feedback… >> >> >> - I think we should explore putting Watch and TOC together, or at >> least associating them more closely. >> - tipsy being to the left of, covers the other icons, I'm not sure if >> we even need it, perhaps we could just rely on regular browser tooltips. >> - I think that moving the TOC icon over should be animated, currently >> the snap makes me look up, and is a bit distracting, the opposite of what >> we want. >> - I think we can kill the in-line TOC >> >> > That would be problematic. It would: > > - Make it impossible to get a sense of the article structure, at a > glance. (eg. Enwiki's WP:Features article criteria > 2b<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FA%3F>and any good FA example.) > - Change the process for getting to a subheading, from > 1-move-and-click to 2-moves-and-2-clicks > > > >> >> - You can't currently scroll the TOC flyout >> - Idea : highlight the current section in the TOC flyout >> - when language list is not collapsable the left sidebar take a long >> time to go away >> >> > Pau's proposal should solve that. > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/New_Features#Better_Interlanguage_Links > > > >> - Placeholder text and user input is not aligned with each other in >> search box >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Jared Zimmerman * \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia >> Foundation >> M : +1 415 609 4043 | : >> @JaredZimmerman<https://twitter.com/JaredZimmerman> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:11 PM, May Tee-Galloway < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Added my comments on mediawiki. >>> >>> @Steven: >>> >>> No matter how much anyone doesn't like the globe including myself, it's >>> a huge part of Wikipedia's brand like you mentioned and shouldn't be wiped >>> out just for the sake of our personal preference. We should improve and not >>> trash it. Even if we trashed it and replaced with something else, we still >>> need SOMETHING people can relate to in regards to the project. Why do this >>> when people already relate the globe as Wikipedia. Wabi sabi wasabi man. >>> >>> mm >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Steven Walling >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Brandon Harris >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello! >>>>> >>>>> I’ve been making a thing. It’s actually got a code-name now! >>>>> No more saying “Vector static header and navigation modification”. >>>>> >>>>> LOTS of stuff going on with this update. Notably: >>>>> >>>>> * Now asks for a username on load, so as to set things >>>>> up >>>>> * All pages are loaded from the API via JSON. So it’s >>>>> not just the single static page. >>>>> * Got rid of pretty much every color. >>>>> * Article actions now dock in the header as you scroll. >>>>> * Table of Contents is now in the header from the >>>>> beginning >>>>> * The sidebar’s border goes away as you scroll past it >>>>> * Lots of links/actions do what you think they should. >>>>> Most do not. >>>>> >>>>> You can play with it here: http://unicorn.wmflabs.org/winter/ >>>>> >>>>> And read more about it here: >>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Winter >>>>> >>>> >>>> \o/ >>>> >>>> The search prototype is great, and so are the improvements to the >>>> toolbar, particularly the relation between the TOC and the way the page >>>> actions slide out on scrolldown. I can't wait to see this as a beta >>>> feature. >>>> >>>> Some very small things: >>>> >>>> - I realize the icons are mostly placeholders, but the user contribs >>>> one is seriously confusing. It looks like there are two edit buttons when >>>> you scroll down. >>>> - I think the main edit button at the top should not be the quiet state >>>> from mw-ui. There is very little use of color on the skin now, so it's not >>>> like we're overwhelming things. We need to stop being afraid to make a few >>>> things LOUDER, particularly since in this prototype we're removing some >>>> color (like the Vector borders). >>>> - The line underneath the page title h1 is a different thickness (and >>>> color?) than the other borders. It's mildly annoying. >>>> >>>> And one bigger thing... The lack of the puzzle globe when scrolling. I >>>> know you hate the puzzle globe and so do many of our designers. But it's a >>>> key part of our identity, and it's also a really nice large target for >>>> "home" on desktop. Thinking of this as a potential future default look, >>>> splitting the logo and wordmark on every page like that is a serious >>>> change. We should have a larger conversation about it I think internally. >>>> Either we do think the globe is an important part of our brand or we don't. >>>> If we think it's so unimportant as to remove it on scroll, then that has >>>> pretty wide implications for our branding I think. >>>> >>>> Winter is coming, (I couldn't resist the Game of Thrones reference.) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steven Walling, >>>> Product Manager >>>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Design mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Design mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Design mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design > >
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