Like Katie, I certainly don't think we should be constrained by the desktop and prevented from exploring alternatives for the Hub UI.

That being said, it seems to me like we are getting into a debate about the design details which clearly demonstrates what we are worried about. As much as we would like to be able to take this design as is and assume there are no issues and no discussions to be had, we have seen many times before that when you go to implement something, this stuff just surfaces. These things take time to resolve and bandwidth for discussions that isn't going into something else. My view is purely from a risks and schedule perspective. We could very well move forward with a new design and resolve any issues really quickly but this is unknown. Sure, the desktop detail view design doesn't translate perfectly to the web but we know what those problems are and we can just choose to live with them for now.

Remember it's Preview not 1.0. It's about getting something out there even if we realize there are problems and limitations. We have certainly compromised in many areas of the design, not just the detail view. There is nothing to say that we won't revisit many UI issues on BOTH the desktop and web post-Preview. I believe this is part of what we are trying to accomplish with getting out an initial version in the first place.

Cheers,
Sheila

On May 7, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Mikeal Rogers wrote:


I'm worried, though, that part of the stamping concept that I really
like might be lost. In the "traditional" UI, all the stamps are always
visible in a central location, so at a glance I can find out what
semantics I've associated with the current item.  With this accordion
rendering of stamps, the sense of what your stamping options are is
dramatically improved, but which stamps are chosen is harder to
coalesce.  On small screens some stamps may even be out of view.

I think this is a really good point.

I think it might be good to have a bunch of small icons for each stamp somewhere that is always viewable, either at the top of the detail view or somewhere else in the ui and clicking on one of those stamps would jump you to that stamp expansion in the detail view.

This sounds like a nice 0.8 feature tho. IMHO, in our current "let's get this out and done" state of mind I think losing the "all stamps are visible" feature is a good trade off for having better support for smaller window sizes. If we follow the old plan of record stamps become so painful that it's almost unusable at smaller window sizes, and I think that is a larger barrier to people understanding and using stamps than having them always visible.

-Mikeal
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