I think it looks pretty snazzy.

If Matthew thinks it's not too much  extra work than sure, +1

Bobby

On May 7, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Priscilla Chung wrote:

This coming week Matthew is going to re-implement the details view of the web UI in order to support stamping for dashboard. He informed me that he will have to start from clean slate. From my understanding, the amount of time to implement a layout identical to the desktop and time to implement a proposal are about the same.

So we took this opportunity to look at the event details on the desktop and see if there are ways to address some of the known issues. How to make it behave more like a web application. Come up with more visually acceptable solutions to incorporate all the form elements without losing the 'Save' and 'Remove' button on smaller screen sizes.

***Note: Please review the questions below before commenting on the design proposal.***

We came up with a proposal which is a slight departure from the current desktop layout of the detail view: http://wiki.osafoundation.org/Projects/ CosmoZeroDotSevenSpec#CurrentMockUp

*The reasons for coming up with a new proposal for detail view are the following:* + The current layout which is adapted to the desktop app is not well suited to web conventions. + This layout better scales to handle small screen sizes and/or additional types of stamps. + Right now we have only three stamps, but there is no more space on the horizontal 'mark up bar'. The proposed layout scales for addition stamps, including other ideas such as annotations for read- only collections, per a previous discussion on the design list: http://lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2007-May/ 007059.html ). + The visual relationship strengthens the visual grouping and association for the address, task and event stamp and their associated capabilities. + The Casual Collaborator target user, is someone who does not use the desktop every day and may need more guidance in understanding the concept of the the address, task and event stamp. + It's not going to take more time to build than implementing the layout similar to the desktop. + The current layout which is adapted to the desktop is very tight— the web app may have problems with different fonts and font size.

From the very beginning Mimi and I agreed to keep the two applications consistent, but only *where it makes sense*. This proposal is not intending to create a unique web UI for the sake of it. We felt the web app is a good way to try ideas out, where the desktop app lacked in experimentation because it would longer and be prone to more bugs.

*The reason not to move forward with a new proposal for the detail view:*
+ Discussion on the design list may impact schedule.
+ If this proposal distracts from 'the purpose of preview', it makes sense to postpone this discussion till post preview. + It's not identical to the desktop app and might cause problems with some users, primarily desktop users who are used to using the desktop. For preview, the target user for the web UI are Casual Collaborator and not the 'Consultative desktop users'.

It's fine if we decide to move forward and mimic the layout on the desktop, as long we're aware of the known issues. Trying something new may fix some issues however it will also create other issues. If our concern is schedule, doing something new may not necessarily cause risk—though I lean on Ted/Matthew to confirm this.

Usability risk is unknown at this point because we don't have users testing the proposed layout vs. the desktop layout, but implementing two different layouts offers us the opportunity to test and learn from our users. I understand completely if the team as a whole does not want to take a chance on this because there are a lot of risk factors already.

*Questions:*
Forgive my bluntness, but it seems like time is against our side, so before commenting on the proposal, I'd first like to ask:
+ Is this proposal distracting everyone from 'purpose of preview'?
+ If so, then we should consider tabling this discussion till post preview—where it belongs?

-Priscilla
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