It's great discussion! Chris - I love how you responded to the comments :). I think there are many people who are emotionally vested in Airflow (and its pinwheel association) and I love that you adjusted your proposal!
I like the new Pinwheel proposal much more than the shuriken one ... because shuriken. Pinwheel association is strong for me as well. I think the new Pinwheel logo has many of the properties that you wanted to achieve (and that I sympathise with) - modern look, simplicity, flat appearance (but with a hint of 3D), being a bit more dynamic, nice when put in context (I think the website looks best with the new pinwheel logo hands down). Also I think Shuriken logo was a bit too dynamic. Airflow is not a speed daemon and it does not need to be - in many cases it just sits and waits for things to happen/be done by other components, so the pinwheel feels much better than shuriken. I love the new colour palette - it's much better than the old one. It was indeed huge problem to put the logo next to some often associated logos (for example the blue from all GCP related colours/cloud colours). Especially in case of presentations where I had to put several logos at the same time. Especially the shade of blue we used so far was difficult to match with often used other blue shades (look at the website for example - the blue of the top right header and Airflow's blue do not look good next to each other). J. On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 3:36 AM Sumit Maheshwari <sumeet.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > Loved the new pinwheel logo. Thanks, Chris and Daniel. > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:07 AM Chao-Han Tsai <milton0...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks Chris for the new Airflow logo. > > > > Personally I like the new pinwheel design better. Its fins are more > > natural as they seem be made by folding four Isosceles right triangle > > papers, which is natural and symmetric. On the other hand, the fins of > the > > shuriken one is too narrow and sharp, which seems to be made using some > > non-symmetric triangle. > > > > [image: Untitled Diagram.png] > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 8:23 PM Chris Hendrixson <ch...@astronomer.io> > > wrote: > > > >> Hey all, I'm the designer of the new logo that kicked off this thread. I > >> will now and forever consider it the "shuriken" logo (I did not even > know > >> that word before this thread, so thank you). Based on the feedback I > went > >> back to the drawing board and came up with another version that is > closer > >> to the original pinwheel design, similar to the alternates that Daniel > drew > >> up. > >> > >> You can see it along with a slightly modified version of the shuriken > >> logo (I made the colors more bold and vibrant and rounded the edges a > bit > >> to soften it up): https://imgur.com/Sclh5pZ > >> > >> I also dropped the logos into a screenshot to see it in context, and > also > >> included Daniel's alternate logo: https://imgur.com/PaJYxsM > >> > >> A few notes about the design: > >> > >> Simplifying the original logo was my main objective, especially the > >> "flaps" on each fin of the pinwheel. The darker-colored flap on each > fin of > >> the shuriken logo was intended to represent the flap itself, not a > shadow. > >> At first, like some of you, I felt this was odd since the flap would > >> typically not be darker in color. However, it was more important to me > that > >> I use a lighter color for the larger part of the find ("behind" the > flap) — > >> I did not want to make the fin too dark as it would make the logo much > >> darker at a smaller size. Eventually, the dark flap grew on me and I > still > >> prefer it because it allows the overall fin to be lighter and more > vibrant > >> in color. > >> > >> For the new pinwheel design I decided to swap the colors so the flap is > >> lighter in color, which does give it a stronger sense of depth. > >> > >> Speaking of colors, this is what I spent the majority of my time on. > >> Color is one of the most powerful tools a designer has to work with and > I > >> went through many iterations of each color to make sure they worked well > >> each other, testing them on both light and dark backgrounds, which > always > >> make colors look surprisingly different. The versions were heavily > tested > >> on both light and dark backgrounds. I wanted to make the logo's colors > >> bold, vibrant, and modern so it can sit comfortably next to logos like > >> Google, Airbnb, and other modern logos that also use vibrant color > >> palettes. > >> > >> I tend to avoid using gradients or shadows in logos or small icons, > >> though there are exceptions (I did use a gradient for the red-gold > swoosh > >> on Astronomer's icon, which can be seen at > >> https://twitter.com/astronomerio?lang=en). Generally, it's better to > >> keep things flat and simple because flat and simple always reads better > at > >> small sizes. This icon is rather complex so avoiding gradients and > shadows > >> was a must. > >> > >> Finally, while I didn't originally eliminate the center dot as I was > >> working on what would come to be known as the shuriken logo, our CTO at > >> Astronomer suggested doing so and it stuck. Removing the dot gave the > logo > >> a cleaner, more unified look. The dot tends to draw attention to itself. > >> > >> The pinwheel design does hearken back to the original and certainly > reads > >> better as an actual pinwheel. However, I still prefer the shuriken logo. > >> While it deviates from the original pinwheel design, especially the > removal > >> of the black dot, I think it breathes some new life into the logo and > takes > >> it in a new direction that feels modern and bold. —Chris > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2019/08/15 03:03:47, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy > >> <aizha...@google.com.INVALID> wrote: > >> > Hey Daniel, > >> > > >> > Thank you so much for alternate logos! > >> > > >> > @everyone please take a look at the link provided by Daniel. > >> > I really like the last option, which is Alternate 2. Maybe we could > >> really > >> > consider a middle point b/w old and new ones? > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Aizhamal > >> > > >> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 23:33 Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi James, > >> > > I don't mean to butt in much here, but as the general "guy who fixes > >> > > various logos around here" (I re-did the current airflow logo as the > >> other > >> > > version had bad color tearing and splotches of...I dunno what), what > >> about > >> > > perhaps taking the best of both worlds and compromising? Using the > >> more > >> > > simple design of the suggested logo in this thread, but making it > more > >> > > realistic, adding the 'button' back in, adding a bit of thickness to > >> the > >> > > wings. > >> > > > >> > > I made a quick mock-up of the current, proposed, and an example > >> compromise > >> > > version at: https://imgur.com/a/G0Bpcky > >> > > > >> > > It features: > >> > > - the current logo > >> > > - the proposed logo > >> > > - an alternate compromise example > >> > > > >> > > I have little to no skin in this game, but I figure if the logo is > >> getting > >> > > an overhaul, it shouldn't just be a dichotomy between old and new :) > >> I have > >> > > them all as SVG, so adjustments can always be made. > >> > > > >> > > With regards, > >> > > Daniel (who is not on this list, so please cc if you need my > >> attention) > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 2019/08/13 12:37:32, James Meickle <jmeic...@quantopian.com > >> .INVALID> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > I'm gonna have to voice my discontent on this one. The previous > >> logo was > >> > > > designed to look like a physical pinwheel, with shading and > >> gradients to > >> > > > add depth. That makes it hard to reproduce, so of course it's > worth > >> > > > considering a flatter replacement. > >> > > > > >> > > > This simplification keeps the same overall shape but elongates the > >> > > points, > >> > > > drops the gradient, and reduces the region of overlap. Overall > this > >> means > >> > > > there's larger contiguous regions of color, and they're skinnier. > >> > > Combined > >> > > > with the shading moved to a location where it wouldn't be on the > >> physical > >> > > > object, it winds up looking like four chef's knives rather than > four > >> > > points > >> > > > of a pinwheel. Removing the central "dot" also replicates this > >> uninviting > >> > > > spikiness in the interior, where the regions of shading look like > >> they're > >> > > > jabbing at each other rather than meeting smoothly. > >> > > > > >> > > > So... redesign sure, but please not this one? > >> > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 7:36 AM Kamil Breguła < > >> kamil.breg...@polidea.com > >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > I also planned modernization of the logo as part of the website > >> > > > > creation. The creation of the website is also to include: > >> > > > > > Brand book with updated logo (including logo safe space, > >> colors, how > >> > > not > >> > > > > to use the logo and black&white version) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > In the near future I will try to provide more information. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:08 PM Driesprong, Fokko > >> <fo...@driesprong.frl > >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Great work Chris, love the clean design. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Cheers, Fokko > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Op di 13 aug. 2019 om 13:06 schreef Kaxil Naik < > >> kaxiln...@gmail.com > >> > > >: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Love the new one. Nice work Chris. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM Bas Harenslak < > >> > > > > > > basharens...@godatadriven.com> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I like it! Looks modern and finally that annoying stain is > >> gone. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bas > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 2019/08/13 10:28:48, Ash Berlin-Taylor < > a...@apache.org> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Here at Astronomer we've just had our Lead Designer, > Chris > >> > > > > Hendrixson, > >> > > > > > > > join us recently and he's proposed a few subtle tweaks to > >> the > >> > > Airflow > >> > > > > > > logo > >> > > > > > > > that I think keep it still recognisably the same logo, but > >> just > >> > > a bit > >> > > > > > > more > >> > > > > > > > refined.> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In his words:> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > The new Airflow icon was designed by me, Chris > >> Hendrixson. > >> > > I’m > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > Lead Designer at Astronomer. I’ve been designing logos and > >> > > > > interfaces and > >> > > > > > > > many other things for over a decade. This rebrand is free, > >> of > >> > > > > course. I’m > >> > > > > > > > excited about contributing to the open source community.> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I don't think the mailing list allows attachments, so > you > >> can > >> > > view > >> > > > > it > >> > > > > > > on > >> > > > > > > > the wiki < > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Proposed+Logo+Redesign > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > What do people think of this?> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -ash> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > *Kaxil Naik* > >> > > > > > > *Big Data Consultant | DevOps Data Engineer* > >> > > > > > > *Certified *Google Cloud Data Engineer | *Certified* Apache > >> Spark & > >> > > > > Neo4j > >> > > > > > > Developer > >> > > > > > > *LinkedIn*: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaxil > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > Chao-Han Tsai > > > > > -- Jarek Potiuk Polidea <https://www.polidea.com/> | Principal Software Engineer M: +48 660 796 129 <+48660796129> [image: Polidea] <https://www.polidea.com/>
