On Sunday 26 September 2004 07:24, David Leangen wrote: > The main reason that I am so impressed with this project--and have > committed myself to it now by refactoring my entire project to use the > current version of Avalon--is mostly thanks to the incredible support given > by Steve. Quite frankly, I have never seen that type of committment to any > open source project. What has impressed me most about Steve is that he is > really concerned with the project's users. <snip/> > However, it appears to me > that Steve is setting an important trend, one that at least for me inspires > even greater confidence in the ASF. Isn't this the type of image that that > ASF _should_ be projecting?
Unfortunately, we have been told by the overlords of ASF that users doesn't matter much. That can also be seen on many projects where the users@ mailing list often (there are many exceptions) is left to the users to fend for themselves. In my, and most definately Steve's, opinion that is truly sad, but ASF at large only look at "community", which means the contributors ability to co-operate, get along, and each pull small straws to a big stack. > Now, IIUC Leo is the chair of the Avalon PMC (though it's not clear to me > what "PMC" means, or what it does). I have no doubts that Leo's concerns > are valid. 1. There are (or have been) two talented, contributed Leo's around here, Mr Simons (nick LSD) and Mr Sutic (nick /LS). 2. None of them are, nor have been Chair of the Avalon PMC. Leo Simons is the Chair of the newly founded Excalibur project, which has its roots in Avalon. 3. PMC is the Project Management Committee. It is the formal entity of the ASF who is responsible to "oversee" the project. The PMC Chair is appointed by, and responsible to, the Board for the work of the PMC. I leave the rest to Leo to elaborate on. Cheers Niclas -- +------//-------------------+ / http://www.bali.ac / / http://niclas.hedhman.org / +------//-------------------+ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
