Hi bibliographers,

I had a look at the design document. Looks professional, although sometimes a
bit too abstract for my personal liking. Concerning the general concepts I
agree. Issues will probably arise later when things get more detailed and 
specific.

Regarding Bruce's answers to Marthas questions: I completely agree.
One addition however:

>> What types of item metadata and content can be stored in a BibDB?
Bruce wrote:
> Pretty much anything I suppose.

In my personal opinion I see a some issues when things like abstracts or other
rather large "content" is stored in the BibDB. This will make the database
voluminous, which is especially a topic when parts of the database are to be
stored in (and shared with) the document.

I would favour if design and implementations started with a "conventional"
metadata-only database and, once this is running, later extended it to manage
abstracts, snippets, images, etc.
When saving reference metadata within the document, the user would then need to
somehow define whether contents and metadata, metadata only or nothing is
stored with the document. I am not sure I have fully understood the proposed
concept of "private" data, but this probably goes in that direction.
>From the document receiver's point of view this is an important question: 
>He/she
can only integrate those bibliographic data fields into his/her private database
that come with the document:

a) If the doc contains (for each reference) metadata, notes and, lets say,
abstracts the receiver could store all that in his personal BibDB and use the
same snippets etc. in his/her own documents. Furthermore he/she could convert
the document to another style guide.

b) If the doc contains (for each reference) only metadata, the receiver could
only store this metadata his database. Again he/she could convert the document
to another style guide.

c) If the doc contained only very selected fields or, in the extreme case, only
the formatted citations and no "raw" metadata at all, the receiver would not be
able to get any bibliographic data out of the document and wouldn't be able to
apply a new style either (since this might require some other data fields).

What is your opinion about c)? Should this be possible at all? Are there maybe
users that might not want their complete used metadata to be shared with the
document receivers? Are there alternatives?

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Bruce wrote:
> [...] Why the distinction between "reference" and "list of references"?

As far as I interpret it, reference for her means a sort of footnote/endnote
citation in contrast to her "inline citation" (see page 12). But I may be
wrong.

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P.S. Just for my interest:
What is the Kent State University doing? Are they still working with the OOoBib
project?


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