No strong opinion about which one is the best.
However, I find it interesting that gitter conversations could be included
in search engine results (at least google).
However, I don't know if we would have this with Zulip or Slack.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:11 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> Maybe it would be great to have a test period of zulip.
>
> I never used it, so, I can’t say if it’s good or not.
>
> So, maybe experimenting a bit to have feedback would be great.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> > Le 21 août 2020 à 10:07, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> >
> > ---
> > Luca Burgazzoli
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Cameleers,
> >> I also think Gitter is a bit hard to follow, especially when there are
> >> a lot of messages flowing by (reminds me of IRC).
> >>
> >> I do wonder how Zulip would be set up, I don't see an OpenSource plan
> >> on zulipchat.com[1] and I don't think it's good practice for an open
> >> source community to lose messages. Gitter offers unlimited history[2].
> >>
> >>
> > It looks like that zulip cloud standard is free for open source projects
> > according to the FAQs https://zulipchat.com/plans or I'm reading it
> wrong ?
> >
> >
> >> We could try to ask INFRA to provide a Zulip service Camel/ASF wide.
> >>
> >> zoran
> >>
> >> [1] https://zulipchat.com/plans/
> >> [2]
> https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202169471-Message-history
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:12 PM Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on
> the
> >>> various camel projects and  overall the user experience was quite
> >> terrible
> >>> for me (in particular when using the mobile client), as example:
> >>>
> >>> - threads are not shown properly on the iOS client thus messages are
> >>> messing up
> >>> - messages are extremely slow to load and sometime the message you sent
> >>> take quite long to be visible even on your end so you don't actually
> know
> >>> what it is happening
> >>> - messages keep being marked as unread even if you did read them
> >>> - sometimes you need to close/reopen the thread sidebar to see new
> >> messages
> >>> for a given thread
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if it is only me but because of my frustration with the
> tool
> >>> I'd like to know if anyone is interested in evaluating some
> alternatives
> >>> (please note that we DON'T necessarily need to switch to something
> >>> different).
> >>>
> >>> I'd personally would like to suggest to try out Zulip (
> >>> https://zulipchat.com/) as it allow us to have an independent
> >> organization (
> >>> camel.zulipchat.com) and to login with github/gitter/google so you can
> >>> easily join without having to fill gazillion of details but I know it's
> >>> streams and topic way of organizing conversations may not be optimal
> for
> >>> everyone.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has suggestions, let discuss here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Luca Burgazzoli
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Zoran Regvart
> >>
>
>

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