Never mind, found the answer in the second link you posted:

https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/

“Free hosting at zulip.com.
The hosting is supported by (and is identical to) zulip.com’s commercial 
offerings. This offer extends to any community involved in supporting free and 
open source software: development projects, foundations, meetups, hackathons, 
conference committees, and more. If you’re not sure whether your organization 
qualifies, send us an email at supp...@zulip.com.”

zoran
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> On 21. Aug 2020, at 11:18, Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Luca,
> are you referring to “Funds the Zulip open source project“? I read that as 
> “it provides funding to Zulip project”.
> 
> zoran
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> 
>> On 21. Aug 2020, at 10:07, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ---
>> Luca Burgazzoli
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Cameleers,
>>> I also think Gitter is a bit hard to follow, especially when there are
>>> a lot of messages flowing by (reminds me of IRC).
>>> 
>>> I do wonder how Zulip would be set up, I don't see an OpenSource plan
>>> on zulipchat.com[1] and I don't think it's good practice for an open
>>> source community to lose messages. Gitter offers unlimited history[2].
>>> 
>>> 
>> It looks like that zulip cloud standard is free for open source projects
>> according to the FAQs https://zulipchat.com/plans or I'm reading it wrong ?
>> 
>> 
>>> We could try to ask INFRA to provide a Zulip service Camel/ASF wide.
>>> 
>>> zoran
>>> 
>>> [1] https://zulipchat.com/plans/
>>> [2] https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202169471-Message-history
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:12 PM Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on the
>>>> various camel projects and  overall the user experience was quite
>>> terrible
>>>> for me (in particular when using the mobile client), as example:
>>>> 
>>>> - threads are not shown properly on the iOS client thus messages are
>>>> messing up
>>>> - messages are extremely slow to load and sometime the message you sent
>>>> take quite long to be visible even on your end so you don't actually know
>>>> what it is happening
>>>> - messages keep being marked as unread even if you did read them
>>>> - sometimes you need to close/reopen the thread sidebar to see new
>>> messages
>>>> for a given thread
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know if it is only me but because of my frustration with the tool
>>>> I'd like to know if anyone is interested in evaluating some alternatives
>>>> (please note that we DON'T necessarily need to switch to something
>>>> different).
>>>> 
>>>> I'd personally would like to suggest to try out Zulip (
>>>> https://zulipchat.com/) as it allow us to have an independent
>>> organization (
>>>> camel.zulipchat.com) and to login with github/gitter/google so you can
>>>> easily join without having to fill gazillion of details but I know it's
>>>> streams and topic way of organizing conversations may not be optimal for
>>>> everyone.
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone has suggestions, let discuss here.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Luca Burgazzoli
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Zoran Regvart
>>> 

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