There's some information [¹] about what it is supported and what it is
coming, like support for search engine

[1] https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/

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Luca Burgazzoli


On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:47 AM Alex Dettinger <aldettin...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> No strong opinion about which one is the best.
> However, I find it interesting that gitter conversations could be included
> in search engine results (at least google).
> However, I don't know if we would have this with Zulip or Slack.
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:11 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe it would be great to have a test period of zulip.
> >
> > I never used it, so, I can’t say if it’s good or not.
> >
> > So, maybe experimenting a bit to have feedback would be great.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > > Le 21 août 2020 à 10:07, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Luca Burgazzoli
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Cameleers,
> > >> I also think Gitter is a bit hard to follow, especially when there are
> > >> a lot of messages flowing by (reminds me of IRC).
> > >>
> > >> I do wonder how Zulip would be set up, I don't see an OpenSource plan
> > >> on zulipchat.com[1] and I don't think it's good practice for an open
> > >> source community to lose messages. Gitter offers unlimited history[2].
> > >>
> > >>
> > > It looks like that zulip cloud standard is free for open source
> projects
> > > according to the FAQs https://zulipchat.com/plans or I'm reading it
> > wrong ?
> > >
> > >
> > >> We could try to ask INFRA to provide a Zulip service Camel/ASF wide.
> > >>
> > >> zoran
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://zulipchat.com/plans/
> > >> [2]
> > https://gitter.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202169471-Message-history
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:12 PM Luca Burgazzoli <
> lburgazz...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>>
> > >>> Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on
> > the
> > >>> various camel projects and  overall the user experience was quite
> > >> terrible
> > >>> for me (in particular when using the mobile client), as example:
> > >>>
> > >>> - threads are not shown properly on the iOS client thus messages are
> > >>> messing up
> > >>> - messages are extremely slow to load and sometime the message you
> sent
> > >>> take quite long to be visible even on your end so you don't actually
> > know
> > >>> what it is happening
> > >>> - messages keep being marked as unread even if you did read them
> > >>> - sometimes you need to close/reopen the thread sidebar to see new
> > >> messages
> > >>> for a given thread
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't know if it is only me but because of my frustration with the
> > tool
> > >>> I'd like to know if anyone is interested in evaluating some
> > alternatives
> > >>> (please note that we DON'T necessarily need to switch to something
> > >>> different).
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd personally would like to suggest to try out Zulip (
> > >>> https://zulipchat.com/) as it allow us to have an independent
> > >> organization (
> > >>> camel.zulipchat.com) and to login with github/gitter/google so you
> can
> > >>> easily join without having to fill gazillion of details but I know
> it's
> > >>> streams and topic way of organizing conversations may not be optimal
> > for
> > >>> everyone.
> > >>>
> > >>> If anyone has suggestions, let discuss here.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---
> > >>> Luca Burgazzoli
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Zoran Regvart
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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