Geoff Howard wrote:
Stephan Michels wrote:
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We don't call states in this sense. We continue a continuation ;-) I guess <map:continue continuation="{1}"/> is bad.
<map:continue src="{1}"/> or <map:continue id="{1}"/>
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- rename "WebContinuation" to "FlowState", and accordingly "WebContinuationManager" to "FlowStateManager".
Yes, the Continuation represents a state, but to make a clear difference as a new concept, I think 'Continuation' is accurate. But 'Web..'?!
- rename "WebContinuation" to "Continuation", and accordingly "WebContinuationManager" to "ContinuationManager".
I guess I'm a little confused at the general agreement on this naming using "continuation". I thought I was hearing in Sylvain's original RT that continuations may not be the only implementation. I don't have a problem with any of the new names suggested which is why I'm not really adding anything to the discussion at this point, but I don't want to have the discussion miss this point.
Could someone who resonates with the vision for these other potential (non javascript-with-continuations) implementations of flow comment on this quickly? If it satisfies you, I have no personal objection.
My shy attempt:
Confusing comes from what we understand under 'Continuation'
1/ Sylvain's meaning when he states other impl should be possible:
The word continuation has been associated to this notion of having frozen execution stacks that can be picked up again.
I guess this understanding goes back to how Christian Queinnec started using the word in his paper (haven't read it and the link from http://www.webweavertech.com/ovidiu/weblog/archives/000179.html is dead)
2/ Stephan's meaning when he states: "it is that what we continue"
he's backed up by http://m-w.com
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : the act or fact of continuing in or the prolongation of a state or activity
2 : resumption after an interruption
3 : something that continues , increases, or adds
IMHO:
I think the verb 'continue' catches a broader consensus: interactions or use cases are indeed just started(initiated) or continued, and this also captures the relation the sitemap has to this.
The noun 'continuation' has gotten a ring of being tied to a interpreted-language implementation.
The inflected confusion from the history of the 'noun' adds up to some case against using it IMHO.
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