Let use the term "affirmative action" from now on...

________________________________________
From: Naomi Slater <n...@tumbolia.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 11:50 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Building and Sustaining Inclusive Communities (was: on 
"meritocracy")

On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 19:23, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:

>
> Discrimination, by definition, is unjust, unwarranted or prejudicial.
>

simplistic and incorrect

discrimination, *by definition*, means you discriminate, i.e., tell apart

we discriminate when we determine who "has merit". but most people at the
organization consider that form of discrimination a positive and
constructive process

when you choose who to hire, you are discriminating. between the hirable
candidates and the unhirable candidates

"positive discrimination", also known as affirmative action, is the process
of discriminating between those who are advantaged and those who are
disadvantaged and then doing something to help the ones who are
disadvantaged

this is similar in spirit to means testing when it comes to social welfare.
the state discriminates between those who need assistance and those who
don't (how well they do this is another matter entirely)

I would like to see a well-reasoned argument that explains why identifying
those in need of assistance and then providing that assistance is "by
definition" unjust. it appears we have a *very* different understanding of
what justice is

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org

Reply via email to