Yes. I'm making accommodations. I plan to take affirmative action (I note that Wikipedia calls out the UK, my native country, as having a different meaning to other places, so perhaps that's why I like the term and you don't).
I will comply with the CoC and I will continue to try to assert the CoC on all actions of all participants. But I *will* take affirmative action to help address the inequalities we have. Ross ________________________________________ From: Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 12:01 PM To: ComDev Cc: Naomi Slater Subject: Re: Building and Sustaining Inclusive Communities (was: on "meritocracy") Making accommodations. IMO, 'affirmative action' should be avoided.... too much political baggage. > On Mar 30, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Ross Gardler <r...@gardler.me> wrote: > > Let use the term "affirmative action" from now on... > > ________________________________________ > From: Naomi Slater <n...@tumbolia.org> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 11:50 AM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Building and Sustaining Inclusive Communities (was: on > "meritocracy") > > On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 19:23, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > >> >> Discrimination, by definition, is unjust, unwarranted or prejudicial. >> > > simplistic and incorrect > > discrimination, *by definition*, means you discriminate, i.e., tell apart > > we discriminate when we determine who "has merit". but most people at the > organization consider that form of discrimination a positive and > constructive process > > when you choose who to hire, you are discriminating. between the hirable > candidates and the unhirable candidates > > "positive discrimination", also known as affirmative action, is the process > of discriminating between those who are advantaged and those who are > disadvantaged and then doing something to help the ones who are > disadvantaged > > this is similar in spirit to means testing when it comes to social welfare. > the state discriminates between those who need assistance and those who > don't (how well they do this is another matter entirely) > > I would like to see a well-reasoned argument that explains why identifying > those in need of assistance and then providing that assistance is "by > definition" unjust. it appears we have a *very* different understanding of > what justice is > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
