So let them change it, what's the problem? (: With changing name, logo, branding you're going to kill CouchDB as a project and create some another project with similar code base. That could be anything, but not CouchDB. As well noted, changing a name causes massive issues with module names, domains, existed articles, questions, hashtags, searches for information and certainly will cause more confusing about who is who. -- ,,,^..^,,,
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > No, because of the name. > > On 30 October 2014 17:34, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:33 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> The confusion with Couchbase is large, widespread, and shows no signs >>> of resolving itself any time soon. This issue is constantly coming up >>> on social media, in person, and so on. >> >> Because of the logo? I hardly think so. >> >> Best >> Jan >> -- >> >> >>> >>> On 30 October 2014 17:04, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the >>>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who think >>>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the name and >>>> clarify the situation as often as possible >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my whatever >>>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a >>>>> rename >>>>>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake out an arbitrary >>>>>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eight Ball >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of problems. But it is worth >>>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time to do it, if it >>>>> is to >>>>>>> be done. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while now. (cf. Max >>>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes <kevin.r.coom...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already "cooked" into >>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>> associated with the project. There are links (and hard copy >>>>> references) >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place. How long do you >>>>> want >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward users from the >>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo however. And the last >>>>>>> time I >>>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just red or blue.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" <br...@us.ibm.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *SyncDB* >>>>>>>>>> The database that syncs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith ---10/30/2014 >>>>> 04:40:26 >>>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache >>>>>>>> ]Jason >>>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, >>>>>>> Noah >>>>>>>>>> Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > Blue is nice. :) But the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts me to change the name too. >>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this, now is the time. It's >>>>>>> important >>>>>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG brand, and changing it >>>>> in >>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But once it's done we will >>>>> all >>>>>>>> wonder >>>>>>>>>> what we were so worried about. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is, how much of that strength >>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus we will get tons of >>>>>>>> attention >>>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as if that already isn't >>>>>>>> enough, we >>>>>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton of branding baggage and >>>>>>>>>> trademark problems. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Change the name! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Noah Slater >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Andy Wenk >>>>>> Hamburg - Germany >>>>>> RockIt! >>>>>> >>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Noah Slater >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andy Wenk >>>> Hamburg - Germany >>>> RockIt! >>>> >>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>>> >>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Noah Slater >>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> > > > > -- > Noah Slater > https://twitter.com/nslater
