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Looking forward to see your ideas :) Cheers Andy On 1 November 2014 00:07, Nick Pavlica <lini...@gmail.com> wrote: > All, > I'v crated some conceptual artwork in hopes of moving this discussion > forward (see attached pdf). The main idea is to get away from the couch > with the human figure on it, and go with a top view of a circular, or > conversation couch as we call them in the U.S. I tried to stay true to the > current logo by retaining the motto, and Apache designation. Of course > this is a work in progress, and I look forward your feedback. > > > Regards, > > -- Nick Pavlica > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote: > >> I have started a new marketing@ thread on changing the motto, as it's not >> a developer-related issue. >> >> Trying to get this thread back on track, if people have new logo >> suggestions - real ones, well designed, not jokes or vitriol, please post >> them here for us to get a look at. We don't need an official announcement >> about a logo search/contest to start accepting submissions. >> >> -Joan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andy Wenk" <andyw...@apache.org> >> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:09:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo >> >> Jan, >> >> thanks for your list :) . That reflects and summarises my thoughts as well >> >> @Noah ... I understand confusion with Couchbase in social media. I was not >> really aware of that. So I support the point working on that issue but am >> still -1 in changing the name >> >> Cheers >> >> Andy >> >> On 30 October 2014 17:49, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > Ah, sorry, I thought this was in reply to me. Hooray for non-threaded >> MUAs >> > :/ >> > >> > >> > > On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:47 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > >> > > I was replying to this thread: >> > > >> > > Andy: >> > >> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my >> whatever >> > > vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a >> > rename >> > > .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >> > > >> > > Noah: >> > >> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >> > > >> > > Andy: >> > >> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the >> > > situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who >> > think >> > > it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the >> name >> > and >> > > clarify the situation as often as possible >> > > >> > > On 30 October 2014 17:45, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> My comment on Couchbase was related to the logo, not the name. >> > >> >> > >> Best >> > >> Jan >> > >> -- >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:39 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> No, because of the name. >> > >>> >> > >>> On 30 October 2014 17:34, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:33 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> The confusion with Couchbase is large, widespread, and shows no >> signs >> > >>>>> of resolving itself any time soon. This issue is constantly >> coming up >> > >>>>> on social media, in person, and so on. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Because of the logo? I hardly think so. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Best >> > >>>> Jan >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On 30 October 2014 17:04, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see >> > the >> > >>>>>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML >> > who think >> > >>>>>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep >> the >> > name and >> > >>>>>> clarify the situation as often as possible >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my >> > whatever >> > >>>>>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get >> > with a >> > >>>>>>> rename >> > >>>>>>>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com >> > >> > wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake out an >> > arbitrary >> > >>>>>>>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names): >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Eight Ball >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball! >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of problems. But >> it >> > is worth >> > >>>>>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time to do >> it, >> > if it >> > >>>>>>> is to >> > >>>>>>>>> be done. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater < >> > nsla...@apache.org> >> > >>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while now. (cf. >> > Max >> > >>>>>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.) >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes < >> > kevin.r.coom...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already "cooked" >> into >> > >>>>>>>>> everything >> > >>>>>>>>>>> associated with the project. There are links (and hard copy >> > >>>>>>> references) >> > >>>>>>>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place. How long do >> > you >> > >>>>>>> want >> > >>>>>>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>>>> be >> > >>>>>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward users from >> > the >> > >>>>>>>>> current >> > >>>>>>>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones? >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo however. And >> the >> > last >> > >>>>>>>>> time I >> > >>>>>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just red or >> blue.... >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Kevin >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" <br...@us.ibm.com> >> > wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *SyncDB* >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The database that syncs. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith ---10/30/2014 >> > >>>>>>> 04:40:26 >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater >> > <nslater@apache >> > >>>>>>>>>> ]Jason >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at >> > 12:52 AM, >> > >>>>>>>>> Noah >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > Blue is nice. :) But >> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater < >> > nsla...@apache.org> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts me to change the >> name >> > too. >> > >>>>>>> I >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this, now is the time. >> It's >> > >>>>>>>>> important >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG brand, and >> > changing it >> > >>>>>>> in >> > >>>>>>>>> a >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But once it's done we >> > will >> > >>>>>>> all >> > >>>>>>>>>> wonder >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what we were so worried about. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is, how much of that >> > strength >> > >>>>>>>>> can >> > >>>>>>>>>> we >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus we will get >> tons >> > of >> > >>>>>>>>>> attention >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as if that already >> > isn't >> > >>>>>>>>>> enough, we >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton of branding >> > baggage and >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> trademark problems. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>> Andy Wenk >> > >>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany >> > >>>>>>>> RockIt! >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 >> 9588 >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>> Noah Slater >> > >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>> Andy Wenk >> > >>>>>> Hamburg - Germany >> > >>>>>> RockIt! >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 >> 9588 >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> -- >> > >>>>> Noah Slater >> > >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> Noah Slater >> > >>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Noah Slater >> > > https://twitter.com/nslater >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Andy Wenk >> Hamburg - Germany >> RockIt! >> >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >> >> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> > > -- Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt! GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
