OuchDB! You made it (: Circular designs are really nice: they have the project name, two curved couches directed to each other suggests party communication / data replication and multiple colours allows to fit it surrounding environment better. Though we're seems going to drop Relax moto... -- ,,,^..^,,,
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM, <jus...@villageonline.info> wrote: > Hi Nick, > > These look great. > > I like the circular designs - how would these look with the current colours > (ie Reds, white and black) ? > > Thanks, > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Pavlica [mailto:lini...@gmail.com] > Sent: 31 October 2014 23:49 > To: dev@couchdb.apache.org; andyw...@apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo > > All, > > >> Hey Nick, >> >> attachments are not allowed on this ML and are being deleted. Could >> you share it via link? >> > > > Sorry, I didn't realize that the ML restricted attachments. Here is a link > to the attachment in Dropbox: > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/4e06ijhfizbd188/couchdb_concept_art.pdf?dl=0 > > -- Nick > > > > > >> >> Looking forward to see your ideas :) >> >> Cheers >> >> Andy >> >> On 1 November 2014 00:07, Nick Pavlica <lini...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > All, >> > I'v crated some conceptual artwork in hopes of moving this >> > discussion forward (see attached pdf). The main idea is to get away >> > from the couch with the human figure on it, and go with a top view >> > of a circular, or conversation couch as we call them in the U.S. I >> > tried to stay true to >> the >> > current logo by retaining the motto, and Apache designation. Of >> > course this is a work in progress, and I look forward your feedback. >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > -- Nick Pavlica >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> >> I have started a new marketing@ thread on changing the motto, as >> >> it's >> not >> >> a developer-related issue. >> >> >> >> Trying to get this thread back on track, if people have new logo >> >> suggestions - real ones, well designed, not jokes or vitriol, >> >> please >> post >> >> them here for us to get a look at. We don't need an official >> announcement >> >> about a logo search/contest to start accepting submissions. >> >> >> >> -Joan >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Andy Wenk" <andyw...@apache.org> >> >> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:09:24 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo >> >> >> >> Jan, >> >> >> >> thanks for your list :) . That reflects and summarises my thoughts >> >> as >> well >> >> >> >> @Noah ... I understand confusion with Couchbase in social media. I >> >> was >> not >> >> really aware of that. So I support the point working on that issue >> >> but >> am >> >> still -1 in changing the name >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> On 30 October 2014 17:49, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Ah, sorry, I thought this was in reply to me. Hooray for >> >> > non-threaded >> >> MUAs >> >> > :/ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:47 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > I was replying to this thread: >> >> > > >> >> > > Andy: >> >> > >> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give >> >> > >> my >> >> whatever >> >> > > vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get >> >> > > with a >> >> > rename >> >> > > .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >> >> > > >> >> > > Noah: >> >> > >> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >> >> > > >> >> > > Andy: >> >> > >> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly >> >> > >> see >> the >> >> > > situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the >> >> > > ML >> who >> >> > think >> >> > > it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep >> >> > > the >> >> name >> >> > and >> >> > > clarify the situation as often as possible >> >> > > >> >> > > On 30 October 2014 17:45, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > >> My comment on Couchbase was related to the logo, not the name. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Best >> >> > >> Jan >> >> > >> -- >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:39 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> No, because of the name. >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> On 30 October 2014 17:34, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:33 , Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> The confusion with Couchbase is large, widespread, and >> >> > >>>>> shows no >> >> signs >> >> > >>>>> of resolving itself any time soon. This issue is constantly >> >> coming up >> >> > >>>>> on social media, in person, and so on. >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> Because of the logo? I hardly think so. >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> Best >> >> > >>>> Jan >> >> > >>>> -- >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> On 30 October 2014 17:04, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically. >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I >> >> > >>>>>> clearly >> see >> >> > the >> >> > >>>>>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on >> >> > >>>>>> the >> ML >> >> > who think >> >> > >>>>>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to >> >> > >>>>>> keep >> >> the >> >> > name and >> >> > >>>>>> clarify the situation as often as possible >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I >> >> > >>>>>>>> give >> my >> >> > whatever >> >> > >>>>>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect >> >> > >>>>>>>> to get >> >> > with a >> >> > >>>>>>> rename >> >> > >>>>>>>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ... >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith < >> jason.h.sm...@gmail.com >> >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake >> >> > >>>>>>>>> out >> an >> >> > arbitrary >> >> > >>>>>>>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP. >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names): >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> Eight Ball >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball! >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of >> >> > >>>>>>>>> problems. But >> >> it >> >> > is worth >> >> > >>>>>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time >> >> > >>>>>>>>> to do >> >> it, >> >> > if it >> >> > >>>>>>> is to >> >> > >>>>>>>>> be done. >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater < >> >> > nsla...@apache.org> >> >> > >>>>>>> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while now. >> (cf. >> >> > Max >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.) >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes < >> >> > kevin.r.coom...@gmail.com> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already "cooked" >> >> into >> >> > >>>>>>>>> everything >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> associated with the project. There are links (and >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> hard >> copy >> >> > >>>>>>> references) >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> to >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place. How >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> long >> do >> >> > you >> >> > >>>>>>> want >> >> > >>>>>>>>> to >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> be >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> users >> from >> >> > the >> >> > >>>>>>>>> current >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones? >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo however. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> And >> >> the >> >> > last >> >> > >>>>>>>>> time I >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just red or >> >> blue.... >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Kevin >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> <br...@us.ibm.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *SyncDB* >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The database that syncs. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith >> ---10/30/2014 >> >> > >>>>>>> 04:40:26 >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater >> >> > <nslater@apache >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> ]Jason >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30, >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2014 at >> >> > 12:52 AM, >> >> > >>>>>>>>> Noah >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: > Blue is nice. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :) >> But >> >> the >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.sm...@gmail.com> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dev@couchdb.apache.org> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater < >> >> > nsla...@apache.org> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts me to change >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >> name >> >> > too. >> >> > >>>>>>> I >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this, now is the time. >> >> It's >> >> > >>>>>>>>> important >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG brand, >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >> >> > changing it >> >> > >>>>>>> in >> >> > >>>>>>>>> a >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name! >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But once it's >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> done >> we >> >> > will >> >> > >>>>>>> all >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wonder >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what we were so worried about. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is, how much >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of >> that >> >> > strength >> >> > >>>>>>>>> can >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> we >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus we will >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> get >> >> tons >> >> > of >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> attention >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as if that >> already >> >> > isn't >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> enough, we >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton of >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> branding >> >> > baggage and >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> trademark problems. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> -- >> >> > >>>>>>>> Andy Wenk >> >> > >>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany >> >> > >>>>>>>> RockIt! >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 >> >> > >>>>>>>> 9ED3 >> >> 9588 >> >> > >>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> -- >> >> > >>>>>>> Noah Slater >> >> > >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> -- >> >> > >>>>>> Andy Wenk >> >> > >>>>>> Hamburg - Germany >> >> > >>>>>> RockIt! >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 >> >> > >>>>>> 9ED3 >> >> 9588 >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> -- >> >> > >>>>> Noah Slater >> >> > >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> -- >> >> > >>> Noah Slater >> >> > >>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > -- >> >> > > Noah Slater >> >> > > https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Andy Wenk >> >> Hamburg - Germany >> >> RockIt! >> >> >> >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >> >> >> >> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Andy Wenk >> Hamburg - Germany >> RockIt! >> >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >> >> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >> >
