independent of the name, we would break the consistency. regards, gerhard
http://www.irian.at Your JSF/JavaEE powerhouse - JavaEE Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2014-02-23 22:40 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > using javax.* from deltaspike is quite ambiguous: is it a DS behavior > or a spec one? I'm no opposed Priority but in > org.apache.deltaspile...Priority > Romain Manni-Bucau > Twitter: @rmannibucau > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau > > > > 2014-02-23 22:34 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko <andraschko.tho...@gmail.com > >: > > Could you explain this? I can't follow you. > > > > > > 2014-02-23 22:23 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > > >> I'd prefer something more explicit. Just changing the package would be > >> enough for me > >> Romain Manni-Bucau > >> Twitter: @rmannibucau > >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ > >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau > >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau > >> > >> > >> > >> 2014-02-23 22:17 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko < > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com > >> >: > >> > Hmm... > >> > We could clone it for JEE6 support and handle both annotations for > >> backward > >> > compatibility. > >> > Maybe we could also use it for other features (or later..) > >> > > >> > > >> > 2014-02-23 22:14 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com > >: > >> > > >> >> That's would be ambiguous with JavaEE 6 > >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau > >> >> Twitter: @rmannibucau > >> >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ > >> >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau > >> >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 2014-02-23 22:12 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko < > >> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com > >> >> >: > >> >> > What about reusing javax.annotation.Priority? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > 2014-02-23 22:02 GMT+01:00 Gerhard Petracek < > >> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com > >> >> >: > >> >> > > >> >> >> it's just a stereotype to get a better tool-support... > >> >> >> @Advanced is also a qualifier (at least in codi). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> however, we need "ordinal" or we add @InvocationOrder as it was in > >> codi. > >> >> >> once we do that, we break the consistency in that area. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> regards, > >> >> >> gerhard > >> >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.irian.at > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Your JSF/JavaEE powerhouse - > >> >> >> JavaEE Consulting, Development and > >> >> >> Courses in English and German > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 2014-02-23 21:41 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko < > >> >> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com > >> >> >> >: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Another problem is that @web is a qualifier and > @JsfPhaseListener > >> is a > >> >> >> > stereotype and not a qualifier. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > So if we would change it, we must use different annotations. > Right? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > IMO > >> >> >> > @Inject @DeltaSpike ServletContext context; > >> >> >> > would be great as it's just like a namespace. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > For the @JsfPhaseListener, something like @Advanced would be > >> better. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > 2014-02-18 11:16 GMT+01:00 Thomas Andraschko < > >> >> >> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com > >> >> >> > >: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > IMO it's actually more expressive than any other names. Maybe > >> >> >> > > @DeltaSpikeManaged would be more impressive... > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > +1 @DeltaSpike then, before keeping the old redudant/"ugly" > >> >> qualifiers. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > 2014-02-18 10:51 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau < > >> >> rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > +1 kind of tradeoff > >> >> >> > >> Romain Manni-Bucau > >> >> >> > >> Twitter: @rmannibucau > >> >> >> > >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ > >> >> >> > >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau > >> >> >> > >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> 2014-02-18 10:46 GMT+01:00 Gerhard Petracek < > >> >> >> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com > >> >> >> > >: > >> >> >> > >> > we haven't seen a nice name so far -> i would keep what we > >> have > >> >> >> right > >> >> >> > >> now > >> >> >> > >> > (it's redundant, but at least a bit more expressive). > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > regards, > >> >> >> > >> > gerhard > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > 2014-02-18 10:20 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg < > strub...@yahoo.de>: > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> I do agree on @Managed not being very expressive. Think > about > >> >> the > >> >> >> > >> >> @ManagedBean disaster in JavaEE itself. 'Managed' is in > the > >> same > >> >> >> > >> ballpark > >> >> >> > >> >> like 'Class' or 'Object'. > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Managed by whom and what? > >> >> >> > >> >> In that case I'd rather go with @DeltaSpike or keep > @Web... > >> >> >> > >> >> But I do not care that much about names... > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> LieGrue, > >> >> >> > >> >> strub > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> On Tuesday, 18 February 2014, 10:15, Romain Manni-Bucau < > >> >> >> > >> >> rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> @Gerhard: yeah but managed is not expressive, doesnt give > the > >> >> >> origin > >> >> >> > + > >> >> >> > >> >> >is quite standard for jmxso i would avoid it. That said > it > >> >> doesnt > >> >> >> > >> >> >bring any feature so i dont want to fight for a name. > >> >> >> > >> >> >Romain Manni-Bucau > >> >> >> > >> >> >Twitter: @rmannibucau > >> >> >> > >> >> >Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ > >> >> >> > >> >> >LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau > >> >> >> > >> >> >Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >2014-02-18 10:12 GMT+01:00 Gerhard Petracek < > >> >> >> > >> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> @romain: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> you will always have same/similar terms in different > areas > >> >> (see > >> >> >> > e.g. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "message"). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> regards, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> gerhard > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >
