Can I get a summary of all of these Outreachy threads? I'm not on
private@diversity and I think I've read every email on this list, but I'm
seeing numbers like $10.5K being discussed and I have no clue where that number
came from. I'm on fundraising@ as well and still don't recall any source for
those numbers. Also, I thought that there was more than one entity that was
willing to donate directly to Outreachy and there was only one or two ASF
sponsors who were unable to redirect their money directly to Outreachy, so I
don't understand why we are still having these long discussions.
I thought that if some entity was to donate money directly to Outreachy that
there were no objections from anybody even if it benefited one or a few ASF
projects and not others. I would hope that would be the recommended workflow.
If it turns out there are some entities that are ok with the money they donated
to the ASF going to Outreachy but for some reason can't directly donate to
Outreachy, I would hope that we would make it clear that this workflow is not
our recommended workflow but we would redirect some of their money to Outreachy
and either let Outreachy pick which ASF project gets an intern, or can we
document somewhere that this money was donated "on behalf of Entity X".
And then, IMO, the ASF is not paying for code. Can we all agree to that and
get going on Outreachy?
It was interesting to see it pointed out that there is a financial barrier to
entry at the ASF. It would be nice if the ASF could find a way to help lower
that barrier without "paying for code", but maybe we should put that in its own
thread and spend more time brainstorming on that while we get going on
Outreachy. IMO, the ASF has other barriers as well. Every ASF project I've
looked at is huge compared to many of the projects I've seen on Github, so the
learning curve may be tilted against inexperienced programmers and they may
need a more expensive computer to build the source without it affecting the
interns productivity. But even then, the entities donating directly to
Outreachy could fund that more expensive computer. The ASF should not feel
obligated to take on smaller projects just to make Outreachy interns more
successful. Contributing code to the ASF is more like becoming a commercial
truck driver, contributing to GitHub is more like becoming a ride-share driver.
One thought on the financial barrier before I forget: the ASF offers VMs to
projects. Could they offer laptops as well?
Thanks,
-Alex
