Wow! I've spent all of this time reading all of these emails and came away with a completely different idea of what is going on.
It sounds like there is one entity who is willing to cut a check to Outreachy for 3 interns. Does anybody have an objection to having that entity cut that check to Outreachy? Or the way the entity was convinced to agree to cut said check? Maybe we can focus just on these two questions and arrive at general consensus so we can get on to the next hard problem which is finding enough ASF projects with viable mentors who can complete the application process for Outreachy in time for the next round. IMO, every other concern/worry can wait until after we get general consensus on having that entity cut a check. What do others think? I have no objections. I think I've read plenty of emails where various ASF members/officers/directors guide other entities on how to use that entity's money to help individual projects. We have an entity that will not pass money through the ASF and will hopefully result in 3 interns making tangible contributions to 3 projects. I work for a different entity that does not pass money through the ASF and results in me making tangible contributions to 2 projects. HTH, -Alex On 6/29/19, 12:49 PM, "Jim Jagielski" <[email protected]> wrote: On 2019/06/29 19:24:09, Ross Gardler <[email protected]> wrote: > > I understand the differences of opinion. What I don't understand is why one position or the other has to be proven "right" before we can start actually working with interns. > One is controversial; the other is not. If the true goal was in starting this effort, quickly, the obvious, logical selected method would be to use the uncontroversial method, would it not? In other words, with the uncontroversial method, things could be started NOW. The controversial method is assured to result in continued (justified, IMO) discussion and debate, resulting in delaying this effort. Even just considering that, and nothing else, the insistence on the paying direct/pass-thru option seems diametrically opposed to the idea that doing this quickly is important.
