So you are saying that because I'm a member of the foundation, a participant on 
this list and a reprentative of a sponsor I can't donate money to Outreachy and 
ask for the intern to work on projects here?

What if I wasn't a member?

What if I decide which project the intern works on rather than the ASF doing 
that?

What if the intern decides?

Ross

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From: Ted Dunning <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:36:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Request for summary update (was Re: Does Outreachy mean we are 
paying for code? Is that acceptable?)

Alex,

I think that the position is that the ASF has substantial control if we
induce donors to give funds to Outreachy that are earmarked for the ASF and
then have a strong (possibly highly distributed and not board-driven) hand
in picking what proposals are matched with interns.  I don't think that
there is a suggestion that the donations be open for any placement and I
don't that there is a suggestion on the table for ASF to not have a voice
in which projects get matched to interns. That voice or influence might be
as light as projects finding mentors and writing up possible projects and
then accepting or rejecting intern candidates.

That is pretty similar to the logic used in, say, campaign finance laws
that coordination is the key question rather than whose name is on the
check.


On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:29 PM Alex Harui <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> On 6/30/19, 4:02 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     the fact that we will orchestrating and directing the spending
>     of the funds from the beginning to the end
>
> I am still not understanding why having an entity provide money directly
> to Outreachy is "orchestrating and directing the spending of the funds from
> the beginning to the end" in a way that is unprecedented and/or harmful.
> IMO, everyone contributing to the ASF should be trying to influence other
> entities to financially support the projects they care about.  Unless you
> have signing authority, or organizational authority over the signing
> authority, I don't get how you can be "directing the spending" instead of
> just lobbying/influencing.
>
> Maybe we need to drill down on that first.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
>

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